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Ange in or out?
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Mrs Vert
Eidur Gudjohnsen
Like your optimistic view. Just don't see it. We will just tag team people coming back from injury with other ones. I don't see us whittling down the injury list to just 5 anytime soon
Mikey10
Steffen Iversen
Hard to know what his point was in saying it if it wasn’t to infer he was going to win something this season.
Mrs Vert
Eidur Gudjohnsen
So has Jose and Conte and they didn't win here, and I had more hope with them then I do with Ange.....nothing works and we know why
Mikey10
Steffen Iversen
It was knocking around a few places last night.
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I hope not or that there is some important context missing.
Mrs Vert
Eidur Gudjohnsen
I wanted him to succeed, i had said give him 3 seasons, even when it gets rough.
But this is beyond my realms of understanding just how bad it could get, and the fact that I don't understand his process of trying to limit damage and his stubbornness.
The fact that he just either doesn't get it, or thinks he has a team of Messi's and Rons that he don't need to adjust to what team he plays against, and the injuries.....the lack of basic defensive ideas ......its just baffling and I do want him gone
But this is beyond my realms of understanding just how bad it could get, and the fact that I don't understand his process of trying to limit damage and his stubbornness.
The fact that he just either doesn't get it, or thinks he has a team of Messi's and Rons that he don't need to adjust to what team he plays against, and the injuries.....the lack of basic defensive ideas ......its just baffling and I do want him gone
Gazza
Jimmy Neighbour
Who cares what he said and what he didn’t … his managerial record at spurs says it all.
The badger needs to be culled
I honestly don't know why this whole 'you've got to give managers lots of time' thinking came to be, our previous managers didn't not succeed due to a lack of time, they didn't succeed because they weren't a good fit and no amount of time would have changed that. The managers that have done well here didn't require lots of time, they got on and done a good job. Talk of giving Ange a 3rd season (I know that's not what you're now saying, but some are) is absoloutely crazy
Not a dig at you fernadez but this comment highlights just how ridiculous football has got and the stupidly intrinsic level every comment is looked at. This was a comment months ago, where a journalist got something factually wrong and he corrected them. I've corrected people many times on factually incorrect things about me or others - Why the fudge this is being spoken about still I have no idea, whether he wins something this season or not he was still within his rights to correct him and I can't believe there is still a fuss about such a minor thing all these months later....
Mikey10
Steffen Iversen
“Ladies and gentlemen, our pilot today has made a number of serious errors on his flights over the past 18 months, but we as an airline believe that he will get things right if given time.
Now please settle back and enjoy your flight.”
fernadez
Mitchell Thomas
It's the way things are now, all about narrative unfortunately. If he goes on and wins something then the quote will come back around and work in his favour, if he doesn't it won't.
There is an element of he not have having earned the right (in this competition) to make those sort of statements. He sees himself as a serial winner rightly, to others he's a unknown novice also rightly.
tommysvr
Dean Richards
That's an impressively bad analogy.
Mrs Vert
Eidur Gudjohnsen
I feel it's more of the sticking when things get bumpy, I guess regardless of time frame. Whenever our managers hit a spot. They went. And most of the times I wanted them gone too. But there comes a point where it's just not changing with Ange.
And add to the fact others been sacked when in top half of table. He has us bubbling near the bottom 3
How does Son keep playing? He could utilize him better by using him less. There are just so many other variables he could do (been done to death) and the man refuses to do it. Like others said, play people in their positions would be a start
In general I agree with what you say, but I don't see how you have to 'earn the right' to state a fact. My point is football now is nuts with how anything can be said, twisted and made a meal out of. Ten, maybe even five years ago this 'incident' would not of been spoken about months later. Modern football eh.....
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
Because when we play those teams they also have to come to our ground
The half decent widest will also be focussing on the league so have that dilemma
We will also have better players than them
spurspinter1
Pat van den Hauwe
Maybe if he had said "So far, in my career I have won something in my second season at every club and I intend to keep that tradition going", it would have been less open to interpretation? Sure it's pretty mewningless, as every club that exists is intending to win something, it's all pretty arbitrary but that's press conferences. It doesn't matter if someone makes something up or the plan completely changes, it's already on to the next thing. I remember when we categorically weren't buying a goalkeeper in January, until we did just that.
As you say, what he says doesn't change what happens on the pitch, but to me it did come off as a little attempt at Jose arrogance without having the credentials to back it up. Sometimes you can say something ballsy and assertive and it pays off, sometimes it doesn't.
Stiff_Swede
Bobby Mimms
Probably the most disappointing game of football I have seen. I did not expect a win, but I did not expect the team to not even try, not being able to win a duel, not being able to put three passes together or not having a shot on goal.
I give Spence OK, rest 2 out of 10, and Ange out!
I give Spence OK, rest 2 out of 10, and Ange out!
As to the question on this thread well Ange is effectively a lame duck at this point. I felt he deserved to see out the Carabao Cup campaign given that on the way we beat both Manchester clubs plus won the first leg v Liverpool. But now? I mean does anyone expect him to be in the job on the first day of next season? We won’t win the FA Cup and could be out in a couple of days. The Europa is a more realistic target but given our performances this season it’s highly unlikely.
Edit: Just to add the Europa League is a fantastic opportunity under the right manager!
Edit: Just to add the Europa League is a fantastic opportunity under the right manager!
Gazza
Jimmy Neighbour
Anyone who thought that we would have done anything decent against Liverpool is deluded… we didn’t even have a punchers chance against them. We all knew we were going to dumped …. 4-0 was not even shocking anymore.
Anywho who thinks we can do anything different in the FA Cup or Europa is pulling your leg. Not you personally…
He is not an elite manager and devoid of what it takes to turn this around. He just looks lost and I feel sorry for him