Rorschach
Ricky Villa
The war will end alright. Just not the way they think.
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American politics
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glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
I don't think Trump won per se, I think the dems lost.
It may all been moonshine and bs but he put out a positive message, the dems appeared to me be more intent on the "stop Trump" and doom messages.
The dem message is probably closer to the truth, but nobody wants to hear the bad stuff.
The election was fought on trumps terms, big mistake Imv.
My two cents view from afar.
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
The early analysis is that latino men went hard for Trump. And now he's going to deport them.
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
Technicality, can he now run for a third term?
Is it two consecutive terms, or just two terms and your out?
Is it two consecutive terms, or just two terms and your out?
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
If they have a vote surely they must be citizens and can't be deported?
Baleforce
Les Bennett
He’ll make himself king or something.
I think it very likely there will not be an election in 2028.
To answer your question under the old rules, no he can’t.
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
Technically no he can't run again but that hardly matters. His health will get him before long or Vance will use the 25th amendment and take power.
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
Wasn't sure, has anyone ever came back and won?
These clauses aren't always thought through and it would not have surprised me it hadn't occurred to them.
Baleforce
Les Bennett
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JerusalemMan
Chris Perry
The future’s bright, the future’s orange.
And not rioting fire or nuclear war orange either
And not rioting fire or nuclear war orange either
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
Not sure if this happened before but 2 terms is the limit I think. As I say I'm not sure it matters really. Vance is the Manchurian candidate.
Baleforce
Les Bennett
Dicko
Paul Stalteri
I can't believe he made it to 78 tbf
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Can't say I'm surprised.
Not sure what to hope for. A modicum of sanity amongst his advisors and appointments?
Not sure what to hope for. A modicum of sanity amongst his advisors and appointments?
JerusalemMan
Chris Perry
I think there'll be far more sanity than his opponents feared or wanted to believe would be the case.
Exciting times.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
I don't agree with all you say mate.
The Dems ran a very vigorously positive campaign largely built around solutions and equality in economic decisions, not to mention insuring that things like the Affordable Care Act would be left alone. Any negativity regarding him was tit for tat retort to his constant abuse of her.
Trump DID get the election fought on his terms with regards to messaging and framing. I agree with you there.
But I do believe if Kamala had been Ken, the country might not have been so scared to elect...
The woke insanity.
CRT
White Privilege
Ignoring concerns regarding immigration.
The endless hate towards men, especially white males
Etc etc
And no the UK won't learn anything.
You only have to look at UK politics thread, where if you raise concerns about immigration etc you are labelled a racist c*n, told you are talking rubbish, get laughed at...
The left/Democrats are their own worse enemy due to their arrogance and complete lack of ability to understand the consequences of their actions/policies.
Its happened aross Europe, the UK and America. Labour got into power because of the collapse of Tories, not because people they won. Starmer got less votes Corbyn.
Now the Ukraine is f*cked
Trump is in power
And the left will learn jack sh*t and come up with BS excuse after BS excuse.
When the answer is so simple.
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
You're closer to it than me Steff and pay a lot more attention to it than I do so I am in no place to disagree with you.
Only giving the view that I see, and unfortunately I think there are more voters paying my levels of attention than yours, maybe that's a contributing factor in this cluster fudge.
If it's true about the female/male thing that's a very sad comment on American society.
Do you think a rep female candidate would win?
They loved Thatcher after all.
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
I saw one analysis on twitter (which I am just about to delete forever) that I think hits close to the mark. To paraphrase, it said that the dems ran a good campaign and ticked all the right boxes, but it was run in a largely traditional way and that way is dead. The right won it on social media and that is where people get their info from now. All the money, endorsements, campaigning and even policies mean squat if you don't control the information space.
Not a chance. Last time it was experienced politicians that maybe saw him as a useful idiot, but this time the brakes are off. We'll have an anti-vaxxer in charge of healthcare, Elon Musk will be given oversight over the same agencies that are investigating him, public education will be further destroyed and courts packed with conservative judges. Trump himself probably won't be doing much beyond golf, rallies and trying to get revenge on anyone he thinks has wronged him, but his acolytes will be given a free reign.