SirPercyHotspur
Peter Taylor
I think that is what I have said , Ben is home grown Welsh as he came through Swansea academy , Robertson is a foreign Scottish git
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Ben Davies
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Ace Face
Sean Davis
They would need the same three years registered at the English club before 21 as, say Vuskovic, would.
SirPercyHotspur
Peter Taylor
Don't think that is right, rule was changed a few seasons ago , if like Ben they came through academies of clubs that play in English leagues like Swansea, Cardiff etc they qualify as homegrown but as we are not in any UEFA comps next seasons it's irelevant.
Ace Face
Sean Davis
Interesting if true…and that would make you smarter than Google!
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Isnt part of Davies' issue that he played academy age in Denmark as well as Wales?
metalgear
Barry Daines
It confirms we have no ambition and just want to stay up.
Davies offers nothing. He's been there from the CL final to our relegation battle. How has his leadership helped except to allow mediocre on pitch performance
SirPercyHotspur
Peter Taylor
For UEFA squads the rule was changed in 2022, any player who comes through the academies of clubs like Swansea, Cardiff , Wrexham etc who although in Wales are affiliated to English leagues those players are considered home grown, so Davies is homegrown but Eric Dier was not homegrown as he came through a Portuguese academy, the nationality of a player is irrelevant.
Tottenham handed huge Champions League boost after rule change
Tottenham have been handed an administrative boost after UEFA changed their position on Welsh players who trained at clubs affiliated with the English league system - meaning defender Ben Davies will now count as 'homegrown' in Europe.
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SirPercyHotspur
Peter Taylor
He was in Denmark 2001-04 but then completed 8 years from 2004-12 at Swansea youth level so easily qualifies as homegrown as far as UEFA are concerned since they changed the rules in 2022 which were backdated to cover players like Davies and any other player regardless of nationality who came the the youth academies of any Welsh clubs who are affiliated to English leagues, those clubs are Swansea,Cardiff, Wrexham, Newport and Merthyr Town.
Under UEFA all clubs affiliated to the English Leagues are considered to be an English club, so even though Swansea are based in Wales for UEFA purposes they are English, have a look at their UEFA page.
Swansea | UEFA Europa League 2025/26
Visit UEFA.com to find out how Swansea are doing in the UEFA Europa League 2025/2026, including latest match news, stats, squad list and news updates.
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Muttley
Mitchell Thomas
You are perhaps being a little harsh on the leadership side. I never wanted Ben to wear the armband. It's not just him. However, what he brings around the place with regards to mentoring the younger players and having a strong, professional personality has it's benefits.
Your biggest point which is absolutely true is the fact that he has been a massive part of the mediocrity that we've seen on the pitch. We are talking about a guy who is not competing for a first team shirt and worse still seems to never be fit for selection when required. It's just a stream of injuries including 5 consecutive seasons with a hamstring issue.
What is also interesting is that centre half and left back are completely different dynamics at Spurs. If Davies was at Stoke he wouldn't have kept Phillips out of the team at centre half. However, Phillips is way down our pecking order. Ditto Vuskovic obviously. We have a bunch of good centre halves and are adding more. There is no case in my mind to keep Ben for centre half cover.
However at left back Spurs have had nothing but issues in that position since Danny Rose got injured. The Reggie and Sess experiments failed and now we are suffering because Udogie is made of glass. We've brought Robbo in but that doesn't excite me based on what the Pool fans have told me about the 2026 version. I hope Souza gets that loan that gets him away from this mess for a year or so. Spence may continue to improve at LB but does actually imbalance us when he plays there. I hope he's mostly seen on the right though moving forward.
It's actually VDV that keeps me sane with the LB scenario.
metalgear
Barry Daines
It really feels like we have no money to spend . I can't believe that management wants see the weaknesses in both wings . The coaches would have pointed it out to them. We desperately need compensation for all available places if we can't afford quality.
Feels like we're back to the days where we are getting cheap over the hill players. Except that Levy has gone from millionaire to billionaire in the process. Again I've stopped buying Nike shirts from the Spurs store to protest.
Feels like we're back to the days where we are getting cheap over the hill players. Except that Levy has gone from millionaire to billionaire in the process. Again I've stopped buying Nike shirts from the Spurs store to protest.
tommysvr
John Lacy
It’s not even mid-June
MartyFunkhouser
Garth Crooks
You have to think that given the number of managers he has survived and the personalities, he is clearly well thought of and is a positive around the club.
NoLimits01
Pascal Chimbonda
And in a WC year
Bishop
Les Ferdinand
Very true, but we've also said that for many years and the result on September the 1st wasn't any more appealing.
I agree let's wait and see before we make any judgments but I can definetly understand those that don't trust the scorpion thats already stung them multiple times.
Bishop
Les Ferdinand
Ok more concerned about the limited places in the squad and his injury prone history but let's see how it all plays out before criticising.
MartyFunkhouser
Garth Crooks
Yeh, I get the concerns, I am just saying, there must be benefits behind the scenes that people don't always see I think about.
I am more than happy to take a waiting brief on all of it TBH, so far the window has been encouraging
Yiddo.1882
Rory Allen
The quote in full was "I don't think we have now to change too many players. We have 10, 11, 12 players good enough to stay. Good enough. Like players. Especially like people.” For me, the key point is the “especially like people” aspect. My gut feeling is this extension is about Davies as a person and a leader rather than what he offers on the pitch.
metalgear
Barry Daines
Yeah and from memory, fastest I've seen Spurs sign up free transfers.
And with our issues with injuries, Davies doesn't inspire confidence.
SirPercyHotspur
Peter Taylor
The quotes came from different interviews "10 , 11 , 12 " was post match Everton . The quote "we have lot of good players" came from the interview the following day with Ben Haines.
The first quote gives the impression we need to sell over half of the current 1st team squad , take a few windows to do that.