Maybe a tactical numpty if that's your reading of it.
Either way, the person who arrived to stop federal agents from doing their job and then refused to do as told by them is the real retard here.
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Either way, the person who arrived to stop federal agents from doing their job and then refused to do as told by them is the real retard here.
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Kasey Keller
As per my posts, you're told by an armed law enforcement officer to get out your vehicle. Just do it or accept the darwin award.
The world would be a better place if they had. That lot will never be anything to society except a burden.
"But I told the tiger I was his friend when I put my hand in his mouth. I don't know why he bit me"
MartyFunkhouser
Steve Sedgley
If a half dozen men can't call down 2 women down from a confrontation without a gun, then they shouldn't be doing the job
They would and could never have been removed from the situation calmly because they were there to escalate the situation and film it for fudgewits on the internet to gawp at.
They want escalation, they cannot be talked down. That's why they had their phones out.
MartyFunkhouser
Steve Sedgley
Dozens of ICE agents versus two women, one of which was only armed with a phone. Righto mate
Lost Mango
Steve Hodge
Just sharing some of the justification those condoning his inexcusable choice to shoot someone were using.You're attacked all time on job. Its the nature of it. If you took every officer off the job that had been attacked, hit/dragged by a car, had knife pulled on them, seen someones insides all over a road, etc etc you'd end up with nobody on duty within a few weeks. Met up with an old mate of mine few weeks back he was reminising about his first day on duty he tried to arrest a f*cking giant of a man outside a pub after a fight and the guy just picked him up by his stab vest and hurled him over the wall into the carpark. That's just standard Saturday night fare
MartyFunkhouser
Steve Sedgley
Interesting, former Police, Police Lawyers and ICE agents are coming out to condemn him to say it looked like and a few quotes:
"Untrained"
"Uncoordinated"
"Why does he stand infront of a car"
"Inducing trouble"
“But only one officer, seeing the set of circumstances, picked up his weapon. None of the other officers did. That’s a bad fact [for Ross],”
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Donald Trump’s administration has repeatedly claimed that a federal officer who fatally shot Renee Good in Minnesota was justified, alleging that the 37-year-old mother of three was a “violent rioter” who intentionally used her car to ram the agent in an act of “domestic terrorism.”
The officer, who has been identified as Jonathan Ross, fired three shots because he feared for his life, according to administration officials.
But former Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers and police misconduct experts dispute the administration’s insistence that the use of deadly force was justified and questioned the officer’s behavior.
“Law enforcement policy should always be about using the least amount of force and preserving people’s lives,” Diane Goldstein, a former police lieutenant and executive director of the Law Enforcement Action Partnership, told USA Today.
The footage suggests “a lack of supervision, a lack of training and a lack of understanding of what other tactics are available to deescalate these types of situations,” she said.
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Former law enforcement officials and experts dispute the Trump administration’s claims that the ICE officer who fatally shot Rennee Good was justified (Social media)
Video analysis from footage taken by several witnesses — as well footage from Ross himself, who was filming his interaction with Good and her partner with one hand while grabbing his firearm and shooting at her with his other — shows masked ICE officers approaching a Honda Pilot in the middle of a residential street.
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Ross can be seen getting out of his car and leaving the door open as he approaches Good. Her partner is walking around Good’s car, filming Ross. Meanwhile, another vehicle pulls up to the scene to the left of Good’s car, and two officers exit and approach her while she is sitting in the driver’s seat.
An officer can be heard saying “get out of the f****** car” while an agent puts a hand on the opening of the driver’s side window and pulls on the outside handle.
At the same time, Good’s car backs up slightly, then pulls forward and begins to veer to the right. As her car moves forward, turning slightly to get around another SUV to her right, Ross moves to the front of her car.
As her car pulls forward and begins to turn, Ross fires three shots. Her car accelerates and crashes into a parked car further down the street.
“I don’t hear anybody (saying) like, ‘Hey, police!’” retired ICE agent Eric Balliet told CBS News.
“You saw what could be easily identified as four ICE officers. And they’re all experiencing, to a greater or lesser extent, the same set of operative facts, the same factual stimuli,” veteran Minneapolis-area police misconduct lawyer Robert Bennett told Mother Jones.
“But only one officer, seeing the set of circumstances, picked up his weapon. None of the other officers did. That’s a bad fact [for Ross],” he said.
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Jonathan Ross fired three shots at Renee Good as she drove away from ICE officers, which law enforcement experts say falls outside guidelines for using deadly force (Reuters)
Balliet also said he did not understand why an officer would put himself, on foot, “in front of a moving, running or occupied vehicle.”
“You’re almost inducing a shooting if that person decides to flee," he told USA Today. “If someone is fleeing, that is not a justification for the use of deadly force. The threshold becomes: is your life in imminent danger or is someone else’s in imminent danger?”
In a major decision last year, the Supreme Court unanimously rejected arguments that an officer who fatally shot a man in Texas was justified after he blindly fired two shots into a man’s car as he drove away.
The justices rebuffed arguments that focused on “the moment of the threat” rather than “the totality of the circumstances,” the standard that the court argued should be applied in use-of-force cases.
“It’s a shooting case where the officer walked around the car, [lunged and jumped onto the door sill], and put himself in harm’s way. You can’t bootstrap your own bad situation"
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MartyFunkhouser
Steve Sedgley
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Kasey Keller
hang on though, that "favourite one" isn't grounded in accuracy, the officer that jumped on the door was not the shooter. The officer that was the shooter walked in front of the vehicle to take a photo/video of the driver via the windscreen and he was holding his phone up as the vehicle changed from reverse to drive forward towards him at which point he drops his phone and pulls his gun
I consider myself quite open minded, and I’m certainly not naive, but this thread makes me question some people as to if they’re trolling and if so what they genuinely get out of it, or, if they mean it, genuinely what occurs in life to make to react in that way.
How do you de-escalate a situation when all the other party wants is to cause you to have to arrest them?
Don't worry too hard. Genetics is partly random so your children may end up more evolved. Or maybe theirs.
MartyFunkhouser
Steve Sedgley
Because I mistakenly removed the fact the reporter has wrongly inferred thats who and what he was talking about when it was the shooter he was referring to through the entire interview. Ive amended
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I'm trying to offer you hope, no need to get upset about it.
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Kasey Keller
The other comments as well "why did he stand in front of a car?" It is obvious from tje footage what he was doing, he went to the front of the car to obtain footage/photo from his phone of the driver. At the time he went to do that the vehicle was stationery, the vehicle reversed when the colleague attempted to open the drivers door, then drove forward at which point the agent in front of the vehicle drops the phone, pulls his gun and opens fire
MartyFunkhouser
Steve Sedgley
Wrong.....he already had all that footage before he stood infront of the car, he started in front, goes driver side " im not mad at you", went round, filmed her rear plates then her partner "go get your lunch" and then decided to stand in front of the car.
It's literally in the footage obtained from his own phone
I genuinely don't get what your problem is dude.
What could be a nicer thing to wish for someone than I hope your children win life's genetic lottery?