I'm fine with signing players who aren't big names from smaller clubs who have shown good figures, and the fee is moderate. Looking at 60m plus on a player who averages one goal in five in the league? Not for me, if Frank is so good at getting players to step up then we have enough talents in Tel, Odobert, Johnson and Moore for him to work with and put that 60m into a CM or find a better 'established' winger to invest in.....
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Transfer thread
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Maybe we will, Frank must of had someone in mind for who he wanted to work with Post Mbuemo. Do wonder how he envisages using Gray and Johnson this season considering he wanted both of them at Brentford. Of course it's different as he has different players at his disposal here vs Brentford, but he must rate them both....
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Chris Jones
The season before they were all drooling about him. He was great playing from the right and coming inside the season before, playing a very similar way to how Frank had Mbuemo playing at Brentford. He has proven that he is physically ready for the PL and can handle the intensity of the league, he is fast and a good finisher, he also has the most completed dribbles of any player in the PL over the past two seasons. In many ways he is the perfect right sided attacker for Thomas Frank's system and could get a lot of joy playing with Solanke as Mbuemo does with Wisser.
Of all the possibly attainable wingers out there Kudus makes the most sense to me. I think he could also effectively play as the second striker if we decided to play a formation with two up front. Him getting on the ball in that space between the opposition midfield and defence and then driving towards goal would be very dangerous.
metalgear
Colin Calderwood
we might just be giving TF more time to assess the squad - under lange and paratici we weren't shy to get reinforcements through loans mid season.
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Chris Jones
Samuele Ricci from Torino was my 'sensible' choice but I saw yesterday that he is on the verge of joining AC Milan. Price only reported as 25 million Euros as well which is an incredible bargain.
Morten Hjulmand from Sporting CP looks a really good player who I think would have no problem playing PL football. Danish connection might help us get him. Suspect he would be over £50m though.
I was really impressed with Hugo Larsson in our games against Frankfurt. He is probably a bit more than just a defensive midfield player but should work well in a double pivot. Could establish a great partnership with his fellow Swede Bergvall. Again, I suspect the price would be upwards of £50m and there would be lots of competition for him.
If I were in charge of transfers at Spurs though I'd offer Kimmich £350k a week and see if that gets close to enticing him.
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Chris Jones
I massively favour two footed players, so much better to watch as well as obviously having the advantage over those that use a single peg only. I said in another thread that I think Kudus would be perfect fit for Frank so pleased to see others also see that. I like Kudus as he seems to be a player that can thrive in a counter attacking team or a possession heavy team due to his good touch, two footedness and explosive pace off the mark.
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Chris Jones
To be fair they are a bit short of options at Chelsea....
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Chris Jones
While Spence looked good on the left in Ange's system where the full backs invert, I'm not convinced he would do a great job in a standard set up where the full backs provide a lot of the width. Spence tended to struggle to make decent passes up the line with his left foot, which wasn't something required that much in Ange's system but would be required more in Frank's system.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Yeh I know, pretty much bare bones with 12 forward players and only 9 GK's !!
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Chris Jones
We basically have 4 first team centre backs in Romero, VDV, Danso and Dragusin. With Dragusin having a serious injury and Romero likely to be off (if not this year, which I think is 80% likely, then next year for sure). We're therefore not starting from a position of strength when it comes to considering jettisoning a young player who has done really well at Championship level at a very young age. Not many players are good enough to have played over 60 games in the Championship at only 19 years old.
IMO Phillips is miles ahead of both Takai and Vuskovic at the moment.
Davies can fill in at centre back in games where Frank plays a three at the back but not when we play 4 at the back.
Selling Phillips is not a sensible thing for Spurs to do.
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Chris Jones
He is at least as good and a much better fit for what we need right now.
Muttley
Tim Sherwood
I tend to agree.
Vuskovic and Takai are the shiny new objects at the club but Phillips and Dorrington are the ones that have been around the club for a while now. Because of Dorrington's injury this time last year, I think he's behind Phillips who has had a solid 18 months out on loan in the Championship. Alfie definitely needs a loan.
In reality, Phillips could be ahead of Davies and perhaps sit as 4th choice until Dragusin throws his hat back in the ring after injury.
Whether that pecking order has switched around in a year's time, who knows. If just one of these 4 end up a long term first teamer then we've probably made some astute signings.
braineclipse
George Hunt
I think of Odobert, Tel and Moore in a different category than someone like Kudus. Can hope that the former explodes like Alli, hopefully can do a job short term, but will need time and a bit more experience to start fulfilling their potential.
Kudus for me is a level beyond that. Has experience, should sign of we think he's likely to make a quick impact, but with further potential.
Tel and Odobert were 30-40m pound players? Kudus more 50-60m range, like Johnson. Proven, but still question marks. Typically the even more proven, even fewer question marks, even more established players are even more expensive. Particularly if we're looking for PL proven players.
No doubt he does have good attributes.
He was decent season before but nothing special.
He has plenty of shortfalls to his game. He runs down blind alleys , he fails to get his head up. His passing is mediocre at best and his final ball is not that good.
This leads back to something said in another thread. Linked with us and all of a sudden he’s a world beater.
Eze is a better player , Mbeumo to. Possibly even Semenyo.
He’s another player to add to our collection of ok ish players.Who play in similar positions
There’s talk of Romero fee funding this transfer online ( could be nonsense) but if we sell Romero for X amount and give it all to West Ham for Kudus that’s just brick business in my book.
If you look at our squad we need to spend the money in midfield. A top class 6 is important.
To add he may well thrive at the right club and I’d describe him as mercurial. Just in my view not what we need for the here and now. Spend the fee elsewhere
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Gazza Dazzla
Christian Ziege
I was a bit worried about Phillips passing when he played the odd pre season game for us, but such a small sample size to know for sure.
Yes they are a category below Kudus, Kudus is 24 and those players are 4 years or so younger. But my point is I would rather see Frank improve those guys over spending 60m plus of our budget on Kudus who is not that great, he just has more years experience of playing. And Frank wanted Johnson at Brentford, so interested to see what he does with him. For reference Maddison had 10 goals and 9 assists and 12 goals 8 assists his previous two PL seasons before joining us and is not a forward - yet people on here complain about him.
So a guy with 1 goal every 5 games and even worse assist record, I would rather not take the gamble on at that price point - assuming we will only sign one or two bigger 'ready made' 50m plus signings this window.....
glorygloryeze
Les Medley
I think Kudus would be a very good addition to our squad and i can see Frank making him as effective as he made the likes of Mbuemo at Brentford. He seems string, fast, decent touch and sometimes shows some good vision.
However, i'd not be happy if the price is such that we don't upgrade our CDM position, which is a more important gap for us imo
Muttley
Tim Sherwood
Yeah, I've read people say that as well. I guess that makes him no different from Dragusin. How do you make the trade off between Davies lack of height, pace, one touch and even passing and the strengths and weaknesses of Phillips.
I would caveat this with seeing some massive intent from Sheff Utd. They used some loan players last year and almost made the PL. They've replaced Wilder and seem to be on a mission to make sure they're building some strong foundations to their club. I'd be very tempted if I were Phillips. It's not a step backwards him moving there. We could obviously get the buy-back / sell-on clauses inserted.
Or just loan him again if we think he needs it.
If he wasn't our player and we were linked with him. We'd be excited.