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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Honestly- if anyone thinks Trump will not wake up tomorrow or the day after and slap on more tariffs to countries at random - including the U.K.- they haven’t been listening.

They have zero integrity in their relationships, the President has a sexual assault conviction and was still elected. Musk has kids with women he employs and on and on.
It is a mafia-style shakedown on a global scale. If the UK needed any more reasons to rebuild broken ties with the EU again, well, this is another big one to add to the list.
 
It is a mafia-style shakedown on a global scale. If the UK needed any more reasons to rebuild broken ties with the EU again, well, this is another big one to add to the list.
We actually need to do the opposite. We need to maintain the goodwill of the current US regime and negotiate a trade deal to remove tariffs. We do less than 50% of our trade with the EU and this figure has been declining. The US remains our single largest trading and economic partner and that won't change in the near to medium term. US is our largest export market accounting for over 15% of exports. It's our second-largest import market behind Germany. The Netherlands at no. 3 isn't a true reflection as actually we use Shipol and Rotterdam as intermediary ports and most of those trades are going to/coming from outside of Europe.
 
We actually need to do the opposite. We need to maintain the goodwill of the current US regime and negotiate a trade deal to remove tariffs. We do less than 50% of our trade with the EU and this figure has been declining. The US remains our single largest trading and economic partner and that won't change in the near to medium term. US is our largest export market accounting for over 15% of exports. It's our second-largest import market behind Germany. The Netherlands at no. 3 isn't a true reflection as actually we use Shipol and Rotterdam as intermediary ports and most of those trades are going to/coming from outside of Europe.
I reckon just do them over subtly. Open the floodgates specifically to Chinese EVs and green energy tech (hardware, not software), and use our agility to shift across global partners
 
I reckon just do them over subtly. Open the floodgates specifically to Chinese EVs and green energy tech (hardware, not software), and use our agility to shift across global partners
That's what will likely happen if we get a trade deal carve out with the US, we will become the primary gateway for trade with the US and Europe/east (more so than we already are anyway).
 
That's what will likely happen if we get a trade deal carve out with the US, we will become the primary gateway for trade with the US and Europe/east (more so than we already are anyway).
it will need to be balanced but I am sure there is an opportunity there on the fulcrum around the world - and perfectly in line with our long merchant history.
 
Hmm- we went though a punishing round of trade negotiations and there is little point speaking with them again.
I don't actually think our ties with the EU were ever actually broken. And most of the movers and shakers within the EU (the leaders of the various member states, I.e. the council of Europe) are different to the ones that were in place when the negotiations were going on. You only have to look at the co-operation on Ukraine under Johnson, Sunak and now Starmer that the idea that the UK gets a frosty reception everywhere we go in Europe and we somehow needed to rebuild anything is gonads made up by the media. The new reality is that we clash on issues with different EU memberstates like we always have done (Spain on fisheries, the French on border control and what have you), we just don't have to try and seem like we are playing nice when we're not anymore.
 
See Labour are changing tact on the grooming gang enquiry towards 5 local led ones.

How local led ones cannot be as impartial as a national one is beyond me. The crimes happened in these communities and police and local councillors have already admitted to not doing enough to stop them and allegations from some of the girls/victims that authority figures were involved in the abuse or the cover up.

This is a huge misstep by Labour and will do them more harm then good. By not having a national enquiry it strengthens claims that they are covering it up.

Though obviously loads on here will disagree with as nothing Labour do is wrong and obviously everything I say on politics is wrong. It is not being able to see the opposite side of the opinion that does lefties more harm then good.
 
See Labour are changing tact on the grooming gang enquiry towards 5 local led ones.

How local led ones cannot be as impartial as a national one is beyond me. The crimes happened in these communities and police and local councillors have already admitted to not doing enough to stop them and allegations from some of the girls/victims that authority figures were involved in the abuse or the cover up.

This is a huge misstep by Labour and will do them more harm then good. By not having a national enquiry it strengthens claims that they are covering it up.

Though obviously loads on here will disagree with as nothing Labour do is wrong and obviously everything I say on politics is wrong. It is not being able to see the opposite side of the opinion that does lefties more harm then good.
Also, haven't local investigations already happened? I thought that was part of the flaw.

I haven't seen the position by Labour or the rationale. I can see benefit in the investigations starting as being localised and expanding wider - but they should be conducted by persons and agencies far removed from the locality.
 
See Labour are changing tact on the grooming gang enquiry towards 5 local led ones.

How local led ones cannot be as impartial as a national one is beyond me. The crimes happened in these communities and police and local councillors have already admitted to not doing enough to stop them and allegations from some of the girls/victims that authority figures were involved in the abuse or the cover up.

This is a huge misstep by Labour and will do them more harm then good. By not having a national enquiry it strengthens claims that they are covering it up.

Though obviously loads on here will disagree with as nothing Labour do is wrong and obviously everything I say on politics is wrong. It is not being able to see the opposite side of the opinion that does lefties more harm then good.
Do you have a decent source for the story?
The only half decent ones seem behind pay walls
 

She was totally wrong to sell off our utilities and council homes, something my parents benefited from but I still view as wrong.

But if Trump has proved anything with his stupid economic policies its that trying to get manufacturing back to a developed western country is pointless, right?

So I guess she did that right?

Can we concede she did that right?

Can you say she got that right?


😀 No didn't think you would be able to say it. Good I operate on such a higher level then the rest of you, bed ridden and feeling like death and I run rings round all of you.😛
 
I don't actually think our ties with the EU were ever actually broken. And most of the movers and shakers within the EU (the leaders of the various member states, I.e. the council of Europe) are different to the ones that were in place when the negotiations were going on. You only have to look at the co-operation on Ukraine under Johnson, Sunak and now Starmer that the idea that the UK gets a frosty reception everywhere we go in Europe and we somehow needed to rebuild anything is gonads made up by the media. The new reality is that we clash on issues with different EU memberstates like we always have done (Spain on fisheries, the French on border control and what have you), we just don't have to try and seem like we are playing nice when we're not anymore.
Think about it lad.

Why would they co-operation over Ukraine be welcomed by them. MONEY.

Want to know anything about the position of any subject by the EU follow the money and if there getting it, their happy. Not to dissimilar to Trumps America they have just some how convinced a load of people their the "good guys"
 

David Lammy: Being on 10% tariffs rather than 20% "nothing to do with Brexit".

Actually David, if you engaged your brain for a second it is literally everything to do with Brexit.

If we were still in the EU we'd have been hit with 20% tariffs that have been applied to.....the EU. Because we aren't in the EU we haven't.

You've said "its nothing to do with Brexit, it's to do with your negotiating skills. If it wasn't for Brexit you wouldn't be able to negotiate on trade with the yanks, as you wouldn't be allowed to have an independent trade policy and trade negotiations would have been through the EU acting on the UK's behalf (as well as the other memberstates).

Pretty simple.
 
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New theme park in Bedford got the go ahead
Huge for the area and been well managed by labour
What's the theme going to be?

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I will give them their due, considering hoe much they are getting in a muddle, community led policing has been long overdue to make a comeback

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Every community already has a named contactable police officer. Just go on here and put your postcode in and the details of your neighbourhood policing team will be brought up.


Neighbourhood policing teams have been in place for years. This is just more political gonads from the main parties like Boris Johnson's new hospitals (that were just the existing NHS infrastructure upgrade projects rebranded)
 
Every community already has a named contactable police officer. Just go on here and put your postcode in and the details of your neighbourhood policing team will be brought up.


Neighbourhood policing teams have been in plac.e for years. This is just more political gonads from the main parties like Boris Johnson's new hospitals (that were just the existing NHS infrastructure upgrade projects rebranded)

Not sure that's strictly true, also depends what you define as neighbourhood. There is one constable accountable for approx 163sqM where I live.

Our local paper did a report not so long ago, something ridiculous like 3/4 on the beat police on the ground to cover a massive area of West Essex from Harlow to Lakeside.

Its been an issue for ages

IF and I admit Its an IF, IF he makes the changes he set out today, which are not happening currently, then its def new and change and much needed. There is zero visibility of police in our area a change of that would be hugely welcomed. The Conservatives decimated Essex Police Force with cuts, if they get their share of the 13,000 extra police promised thats only a good thing.
 

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