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Tactics Thread

A wiiiiiide open midfield against Liverpool. One pass put their right back through our midfield space, running at our defence, one pass goal. Embarassing. No defensive midfielder.

Did he learn?

A wiiiiiide open midfield against Villa. One pass put their man straight through our midfield space, running at our defence, one pass goal. Embarassing. No defensive midfielder.
 
Bullet said:
A wiiiiiide open midfield against Liverpool. One pass put their right back through our midfield space, running at our defence, one pass goal. Embarassing. No defensive midfielder.

Did he learn?

A wiiiiiide open midfield against Villa. One pass put their man straight through our midfield space, running at our defence, one pass goal. Embarassing. No defensive midfielder.
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Highlighted it in the match thread but there was a point in the first half when their CB in possession of the ball made an uncontested pass, on the edge of his own box, in a straight line to an unmarked CM (?) at the edge of the center circle (in their own half) which took out 6 (six) of our players
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I think that data may be skewed by the first half of the season
We have barely mustered a sprint in ages
I’d love to know when it’s a sprint rather then a normal run…
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I’d disagree. Gray, for one, seemed to spend half the game sprinting back towards his own goal yesterday. He was at it from the first minute when we conceded the opening goal. It carried on through the game.
 
Mikey10 said:
I’d disagree. Gray, for one, seemed to spend half the game sprinting back towards his own goal yesterday. He was at it from the first minute when we conceded the opening goal. It carried on through the game.
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That would only show on one metric
The guy making up the data should show a before and after and on the thread someone asks him but his answer is vague
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I’d guess he may think he is covering for Porro
But with the other 2 Cms in no man’s land it gave a gaping hole
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Exactly that. 8 or 9 players caught on the right side of the pitch. Opposition make the switch and normally Sonny hasn't switched on. Then the overload and an opposition chance created. 5 mins later we will have 8 or 9 players on the left side of the pitch and then they're down Porro's side.

Schoolboy football.
 
Muttley said:
Exactly that. 8 or 9 players caught on the right side of the pitch. Opposition make the switch and normally Sonny hasn't switched on. Then the overload and an opposition chance created. 5 mins later we will have 8 or 9 players on the left side of the pitch and then they're down Porro's side.

Schoolboy football.
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I think sonny is toxic for us as we try to oaky brave football but in then example having watched it back he did the right thing
The issue was that the second “presser” was porro who murdered it and left his who area vacated
Ans then for once you had the midfield close but in the wrong area
 
every goal we concede is so similar, it's a structural problem. how often do we miss the tackle in the midfield, allowing them to play it forward to where our full back is out of position.

every time man. look at the goal away to Saudi Sportswashing Machine (Isak?). The goal away to Forest (Elanga). The goal in the first minute yesterday same thing.

It's an Ange tactic issue.
 
We are easy to set up against, beat the poor press, skip past the lame tackle in midfield and we have an overload on the right hand side, failing that we have an overload on the left. Its so easy i could set up a team to beat us.
 
Chrissivad said:
This isn't to do with fitness, missing a number of players.

This is the set up leaving us horribly exposed

https://twitter.com/x/status/1888690299209187528

And we have been all season. Just that we had players bailing us out
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Was way less of a problem early on in the season than it was against Villa and in some other recent games.

Our pressing structure has been way off. Almost like we're a mismatch of teenagers, new signings, players that don't fully fit their role and exhausted players.
 
braineclipse said:
Was way less of a problem early on in the season than it was against Villa and in some other recent games.

Our pressing structure has been way off. Almost like we're a mismatch of teenagers, new signings, players that don't fully fit their role and exhausted players.
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No Solanke
 
Muttley said:
Exactly that. 8 or 9 players caught on the right side of the pitch. Opposition make the switch and normally Sonny hasn't switched on. Then the overload and an opposition chance created. 5 mins later we will have 8 or 9 players on the left side of the pitch and then they're down Porro's side.

Schoolboy football.
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To quote my coach (ok, primary school teacher)
"Stop bunching!"
 
theanalyst.com

Is Ange Postecoglou to Blame for Spurs’ Injury Crisis? | Opta Analyst

Tottenham have endured terrible problems with injuries this season, but how much are manager Ange Postecoglou's tactics to blame?
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Muscle injuries tend to be caused by being overloaded more than being the result of a specific incident or impact, and of those, hamstring injuries are most associated with being overworked. Data from premierinjuries.com shows that 39% of the injuries that have caused a Spurs player to miss at least one game this season have been hamstring-related, compared to a league-wide average of 23.5%. Hamstring injuries make up 58% of Tottenham’s muscle-related injuries, compared to 41% across the whole Premier League.

Tottenham’s injuries have put more strain on the available players, in turn increasing the likelihood of more of them straining muscles or pinging hamstrings. But it also can’t have helped that Postecoglou asks his players to run and sprint more than any other team in the top flight.

Spurs run at high intensity more than any other team in the Premier League. They lead the top flight for total sprints, with 4,200, and are second to Ipswich (2,697.5 km) for total distance covered (2,693.8 km). Tottenham’s players have made more than 700 more sprints than Ipswich (3,473).

Postecoglou’s team barely seem to drop their intensity. The speed at which they restart play regardless of whether they are winning, drawing or losing is a topic we have covered before, and they run and sprint more than most teams whether they have the ball or not.

They press more intensely than every other team in the Premier League. They have pressured an opponent on the ball in the final third more times (1,505) than any other team in the league. Their PPDA (opposition passes per defensive action – a measure of proactivity without the ball) is the lowest in the division, at 9.4, showing they allow their opponents the fewest passes for every attempt they make to overturn possession. They also lead the Premier League for pressures made by a player sprinting, with 819 – 82 more than the team in second (Bournemouth – 737) and at least 160 more than 15 of the other 18 teams.


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When they win the ball, the intensity barely drops. Their players have made more off-the-ball runs when a teammate has possession (4,155) than any other team in the Premier League this season, and more off-the-ball sprints (1,361) than everyone else, too. Their players have covered 9.1 km with off-the-ball runs, which is by a distance the most in the Premier League, while only Nottingham Forest’s players average a longer distance covered with each of their runs (22.0 metres) than Spurs (21.8m). Note that Spurs’ players have made more than 1,200 more off-ball runs than Forest’s.

Clearly, it is in the game plan to outrun the opposition. Their win rate when they outrun their opponents in league games this season is 53.8%, but drops to 9.1% when their opponents run further than them. They have lost every single game in which their opponents have recorded more sprints than them.

…There is a quirk in Tottenham’s recent numbers that may suggest the Australian is aware of the need to ask less of his players. They have only posted fewer than 150 sprints in four Premier League games all season, and those came in their four most recent matches.

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