Welcome Ange: To Dare is to Didgeridoo

[billyiddo]

Ange clearly didn't rate PEH first thing he done was remove him as a starting player - which I agree with.

 

[DeanoAustin]

Right now Hojberg would have got us extra points. Never really understood letting him go in the first place without some sort of body that could take his place.

He wasn't the hardest of hard men but he wouldn't be hiding like some others are.

Would be very surprised if he wanted to stay. He always seemed to have very high aspirations so sitting on our bench was never gonna be enough for him.

 

[Baleforce]

Royal would make us better at the back too, his recovery runs were insane, he had a radar for danger and would often drop in to cover naturally.

 

[Lemonade Money]

Right now Hojberg would have got us extra points.

I think we need more than someone pointing.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I may be missing the point mate, apologies if so, but who would we have kept out of that lot who would have been useful to us? Hojbjerg and Royal maybe? Midfield doesn’t seem to be the problem, so Royal is the one we should have kept. Dier? He would not turn down Bayern I’m sure.

All players would useful when you have none
The point tough is we lost a LOT of players and brought in much less
We may have improved quality but the quantity drop is massive

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Be interesting for someone to look through the accounts and explain why we're so close to the threshold. I expect the stadium debt is something we have to cope with that other clubs don't. But the point about us not paying top wages isn't total gonads. It's very relevant if you're asking why we don't attract top players.

You look at the percentage of revenue that we spend on wages. It is the lowest in the league and has been for many, many years bar one I think. So we spend less of our revenue on wages than any other club in percentage terms. When you factor in that clubs like Liverpool, United and City always generate more revenue than us in absolute terms and spend a higher % of it on wages than us (and Woolwich and Chelsea usually do the same), we're lagging a long way behind.

If we have little headroom from a PSR point of view, that means that there is some sort of expense that we have that others don't which is restricting our ability to pay higher wages.

Can tell you what I read before… transfer debt
Huge issue and all relatively short payment periods
We had the 2nd highest in the country a few years ago
United are now at £350m I think
We are probably at £200m at a guess
Chelsea… £300m
Not sure about others
But that debt has to be paid off each season in BIG chunks

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Ange clearly didn't rate PEH first thing he done was remove him as a starting player - which I agree with.

Was a great finishers of games
Closed out things in a way our players can’t now

 

[Daveeeeeeeed]

Right now Hojberg would have got us extra points. Never really understood letting him go in the first place without some sort of body that could take his place.

He wasn't the hardest of hard men but he wouldn't be hiding like some others are.

He wasn't good enough for us and we needed to upgrade. Unfortunately we didn't upgrade, and I'd go as far and say we downgraded and now he's exactly what we need.

You don't know what you've got til it's gone, they paved paradise put up a parking lot.

 

[DubSpur]

Was a great finishers of games
Closed out things in a way our players can’t now

Is it the players can't or the managers instructions won't allow them to?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Is it the players can't or the managers instructions won't allow them to?

I think it’s the lack of bodies with prince maybe, although we have killed for games we were ahead in quite a bit
He was great at it but really poor
when starting
Maybe it would be better if we had people coming on who had more than 10 starts
But we are where we are
Arsenal conceded the title because they lost Odegard
City because of Rodri
Us because of richarlison
Whose next (yeah I’m joking on out front)

 

[DubSpur]

I think it’s the lack of bodies with prince maybe, although we have killed for games we were ahead in quite a bit
He was great at it but really poor
when starting
Maybe it would be better if we had people coming on who had more than 10 starts
But we are where we are
Arsenal conceded the title because they lost Odegard
City because of Rodri
Us because of richarlison
Whose next (yeah I’m joking on out front)

We play the same way no matter what the state of the game is. We don't set out to manage the game at any stage or to close it out. FBs will still bomb on no matter the scoreline and the time of the game. That's all on Ange, not the players.

 

[Kompakted]

That doesn't explain why we pay the lowest percentage of our revenue in wages and are still exposed from a PSR perspective. Even with Kane, Son and Ndombele on huge money, we paid less of our revenue, percentage-wise, out in wages than any other club in the league consistently.

So PSR is calculated over a 3 year period. During the 2019/20 season and 2020/21 season we recorded significant deficits due to having to maintain the stadium without fan or concert etc revenue during Covid and trying to finance a competitive squad. These losses only dropped off the calculation in 2023/2024, so we've only got to a point last season where we're not having to offset past seasonal losses with current trading activity.

Also as others have alluded to, transfer debt...when you make poor transfer decisions it really kills you under PSR. The summer we ploughed £130m into N'Dombele, Lo Celso, Sessegnon and Clark killed us on PSR as we have had to effectively write all those players off ams wait for their values to amortise as nobody would pay what we needed to take them off us. Again it's only last season that disaster of a summer rolled off the books financially

 

[Bedfordspurs]

We play the same way no matter what the state of the game is. We don't set out to manage the game at any stage or to close it out. FBs will still bomb on no matter the scoreline and the time of the game. That's all on Ange, not the players.

Full backs didn’t bomb on vs pool
Not until we were 2 down
The were also much more restarted vs Chelsea
It’s not all or nothing even if people wanna think it is
But they do attack more than most of course
But I do also think if we had more options like he had in some games last year he may make more subs to add the difference … May

 

[DubSpur]

Full backs didn’t bomb on vs pool
Not until we were 2 down
The were also much more restarted vs Chelsea
It’s not all or nothing even if people wanna think it is
But they do attack more than most of course
But I do also think if we had more options like he had in some games last year he may make more subs to add the difference … May

Porro did bomb on against Pool.

Either way it's about seeing out a game. We don't do it. See games against Utd and Brighton for starters.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Porro did bomb on against Pool.

Either way it's about seeing out a game. We don't do it. See games against Utd and Brighton for starters.

He didn’t
I watched the game twice
He couldn’t get out of out half for the first 30 minutes
But when we went two down he did
As players l do when behind
They gamble
Brighton was a weird one
The players stopped playing and running..
united we were fine. It was two indivual errors. Not the team play

 

[Finney Is Back]

I disagree, I’ve managed large IT teams for years, whenever someone has come to me saying they have had an offer, they are thinking about it because it’s more money/better title/less hours and they want to know if I can match it. I always say the same, congrats, I’m pleased for you, I’ll just need the normal letter of notice/resignation.

I’ve never regretted it. Nobody is irreplaceable.

Then you’ve never worked with great people (or been great in a role yourself).

Of course the trick is to ensure your great people are properly rewarded so that they don’t look for outside offers but that does t stop them being headhunted and when that happens you have to decide whether their value to the operation is worth more money. For a few people it is.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Then you’ve never worked with great people (or been great in a role yourself).

Of course the trick is to ensure your great people are properly rewarded so that they don’t look for outside offers but that does t stop them being headhunted and when that happens you have to decide whether their value to the operation is worth more money. For a few people it is.

You should be delighted if someone wants your talent as it means you have done something right

 

[SteveAWOL]

Today’s embargoed press conference footage, hopefully he’ll be this cheerful following the Wolves match.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1872771945160442308

 

[Finney Is Back]

All players would useful when you have none
The point tough is we lost a LOT of players and brought in much less
We may have improved quality but the quantity drop is massive

We’ve improved ’potential’ not quality right now (as well as reducing quantity)

 

[Finney Is Back]

You should be delighted if someone wants your talent as it means you have done something right

Indeed. Over the course of my career I have stayed in several roles after my existing employer bettered an offer I’d had from another company who had headhunted me.