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DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
I thought the rebound from Dier's free-kick was *the* moment, tbh. It came too fast for him to control it (bobbled around him and was cleared, iirc), but if the fates had been on his side, he'd have stuck his bum out and sent it in.
He had nothing to work with today, so it's hard to pin any blame on him. Didn't create much by himself either, but then, the level to which the rest our lads sunk probably meant that he was pretty discouraged himself.
He had nothing to work with today, so it's hard to pin any blame on him. Didn't create much by himself either, but then, the level to which the rest our lads sunk probably meant that he was pretty discouraged himself.
Legohamster
Ian Walker
I might be overly harsh on him but I thought if he was less flat footed he would have got closer to Walkers Cross/shot - plus whilst the ball was not great his movement for the cross in the last 10 or so was terrible.
I don't think the service to him has been great, however he needs to do a lot more movement wise.
I dont think he can be criticized yet, I can't think of many chances that he is missing ala Soldado we just dont create much we are always too narrow and running into the defence and need always a magic precise splitting pass we are lucky that Ali constantly arriving in the right place at the right time (like lampard used to) contributes to the goal tally as Lamela and Eriksen are way off
I am fearful for Sunday after our first team running around on that big pitch no goal from open play in ages Arse confidence high after the tuesday game
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I am fearful for Sunday after our first team running around on that big pitch no goal from open play in ages Arse confidence high after the tuesday game
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StephenH
David Ginola
There is something wrong in the group thats for sure. But we will never truly know and that's if anybody really does. So I look at what has changed it's the only logical thing to do.
But it could be anything.
Lets not forget we have to go back to April, that was the time it started to go wrong.
ricky2tricky4city
Steffen Freund
There was nothing wrong after the Chelsea game last season. Once the big prize is gone, it's gone.
We want them to keep showing up, to finish above Arsenal et al, but the players aren't thinking that. they were not being weak. Their fire for the title was well and truly extinguished after burning fiercely all season. It's a bitter pill, you lose interest as your hopes have gone.....it's human nature.
StephenH
David Ginola
I have to disagree - we bottled it. That is understandable 'a little' because we are a relatively young squad.
ricky2tricky4city
Steffen Freund
Do you mean the after Chelsea bit or the West Brom draw and Chelsea game?
I dont think the fault is in CM, though last year our best performances were were Dier/Dembele in CM and Alli in teh no 10 role - it gave us a lot of power in the middle which others couldnt handle. I dont really think that changing Wanyama for Dier makes a difference.
And our big weakness isnt in CM - the weakness is in scoring goals, which is more with the front four positions. Lamela and Eriksen are off-form (badly), kane is injured and Janssen / Nkoudou / Sissoko are all still settling in
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
What'd did we bottle?
We were never top at any point last season
We always played after the team that were top so never had that chance to get ahead
We were the only team to give the mighty Leicester a run for their money
Surely the bottlers were those that were top and failed???
StephenH
David Ginola
I'm in the 'bottled it' camp your in the 'plucky young team' camp. We will leave it there.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Fair dues - If we were veer top and didn't win it I would agree
Arsenal were favourites and went top and had game stop stay top... they bottled it
City bottle did after we beat them as they were broken
We currently look broken IMO
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
We didn't bottle the league but we definitely bottled 2nd place.
StephenH
David Ginola
Spot on and deeply concerning.
Levy has got some really top plans for this club and my fear is we are going to jeopardise them to some extent with our current horrible form.
StephenH
David Ginola
ricky2tricky4city
Steffen Freund
Oh don't bottle it @StephenH ...just one month ago you were delivering all over your computer screen as we ripped up City.
We need to give it a little longer to see if we can sink even lower. Poch has a few brownie points in the bank and rightly so, we all had lovely things to say about him last season.
StephenH
David Ginola
Where am I bottling it?
Loved the City result, what right minded Spurs fan would not. But that's history. Poch has only one problem, that is what his boss thinks. Not what you or I think.
This is not a forgiving industry and Poch can thank his lucky stars the Mourinho is making a pig's ear of things. He will be compared to his fellow managers no matter how much he wont like ATM its human nature.
But lets see what Sunday brings.........
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ricky2tricky4city
Steffen Freund
I was (rather lamely) connecting our other debate about the players 'bottling' it, and suggesting that you were 'bottling' it regarding the faith in the team and manager.
IMO a bit early for being 'deeply concerned' and Levys grand plans imploding
We're 1 month on from City and 3 pts off the top.
Levy will not get rid of Poch.
Out of a list possible issues....what's your guess on what's going on?
As for Sissoko, i may well be on-board with you shortly
StephenH
David Ginola
I was (rather lamely) connecting our other debate about the players 'bottling' it, and suggesting that you were 'bottling' it regarding the faith in the team and manager.
IMO a bit early for being 'deeply concerned' and Levys grand plans imploding
We're 1 month on from City and 3 pts off the top.
Levy will not get rid of Poch.
Out of a list possible issues....what's your guess on what's going on?
As for Sissoko, i may well be on-board with you shortly
I really do not see us as being thus far of top by this amount of points as easing my concerns. City is like Stoke and Gillingham history.
My worry stems from declining performances and goal tally and culminates in what ever you to want call last night.
One this you can put your mortgage on is Levy WILL not hesitate to act if we wander too far from the path he envisages for Spurs in the next few years prior to the move to the new stadium.