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Next time you're in conversation with Liverpool fans, remind them of this bit of history. Liverpool finished second in 88-89, won the league in 89-90, finished second in 90-91 and plummeted into a 30 wait for their next league title.

It's happening again. Second to City in 18-19, champions in 19-20, and now this dismal season to, hopefully, set off another 30 years of futility.
 
greatwhitenorf said:
Next time you're in conversation with Liverpool fans, remind them of this bit of history. Liverpool finished second in 88-89, won the league in 89-90, finished second in 90-91 and plummeted into a 30 wait for their next league title.

It's happening again. Second to City in 18-19, champions in 19-20, and now this dismal season to, hopefully, set off another 30 years of futility.
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So when do we all get banned from Europe because their fans are feral clams?
 
Briddo1882 said:
I had this text sent through earlier, thought I would share it on here as it is an interesting perspective:


“A Nottingham Forest fan wrote this.

So Liverpool, further thoughts....

The common myth is that I don’t like Liverpool and that is totally correct...however my best friends who are fans of that club are decent folk and good friends , the manager seems a good guy and the team are talented and deserve all the accolades.....they have purchased wisely in the transfer market, coached well and built a side over a number of years against a solid plan, which is what so many clubs, like my own have failed to do consistently....what I dislike is the club itself, the supporters, the city and the general arrogance and distain that has been shown to the rest of the footballing community....and here’s why......

Getting the entire English game banned from Europe for six years for their fans being directly responsible killing innocent people at Heysel and the fact that it hardly ever gets mentioned every year, compared to Hillsborough ✅

Denying a host of English clubs the opportunity to play in Europe competition, some of whom have never had the chance since and probably never will again ✅

Damaging the English National team as a result and causing years of self inflicted hurt to this country’s international standing in world football ✅

For their part in the worst footballing disaster this country has ever seen, Hillsborough, and for totally denying ANY responsibility for the outcomes that day, totally disregarded the behaviour of a section of their travelling support some of whom were under the influence of drink and arrived late to the match, instead waging a thirty year legal war on commanding police officer on the day in an attempt to totally exempt themselves......the police were wrong, no doubt, but trying to portray Scousers as angels....come on ✅

Bullying? Heartbreak? brick? Give me a break...keep waving your flags and pretend the past never happened, pretend the rest of football doesn’t remember......

The karma of course is that you celebrated your first title in thirty years in an empty stadium with piped in crowd noise, and then got to watch as your own supporters, the ones you have excused for years, burn their own city, tinkle in and smash up shop fronts, attack the police and injure several bystanders .....all in the middle of a global pandemic that has taken nearly 80k lives in this country alone to date....I hope you watched and I hope you were proud of what you represented....

You may be the self styled champions of everything, but to the rest of the football community, you’ll always be remembered as the stain on our game that we’ll never be able to rub clean....one of the biggest and richest football clubs in the world that has spent the last thirty years massively underachieving, year after year, excuse after excuse for failure, spending millions trying to rekindle past eras.....always painting yourselves as the underdog wallowing in the ‘Thatcher Years’, using it as an excuse to boo the national anthem, peddle idle anti establishment flimflam, time and time again and claim their ridiculous scouse independence from the rest of the country......

Who can forget (most of Liverpool has conviently done so) the clubs lack of any sort of response or measurable action in the Mason Holgate racism case involving Roberto Fermino, the various Luiz Suarez racist incidents or the Jon Flanagan domestic violence scandal...the arrogance of the club, believing they have been wronged by history and they somehow are above reproach is one of the many reasons the footballing community holds them in such contempt and will continue to do so....somewhere in Anfield there is a huge fudging carpet with a load of brick swept under it....they have to keep inviting Jan Molby in to sit on the lump to squash it down......

And so, you got there finally...and when you did what happened? Your fans set fire to your own town hall and totally disgraced your city....and we looked on, unsurprised at yet another incident that the media will skirt over, choosing instead to wheel out Phil Thompson, Graeme Souness, ‘Kenny’ and ‘Cara’ to wax lyrical about how their pain and suffering has been extinguished.....try getting battered five nil at Oldham away in league one and you might realise what pain and suffering actually feels like.

You may want to forget the truth, but we never will....”
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I think this is pathetic TBH.

I get tired of it. Half the clams who go on and on about them and Hillborough and Heysel aren't old enough to remember either. I'll bet the vast majority have no idea what an old-school SF Hillsborough crush is like. Some of us do, and it is fudging scary. Some of us also realize we were lucky, that in '81 they let us onto the pitch during the first-half. Fortunately I'd learned my lesson at QPR away earlier in the competition and was not near those fences.What I had conveniently forgotten/erased from memory, was how some of ours then charged the other end at HT. Lovely. Not a drop of alcohol among them I'm sure.

It's so easy to slag them off based on a few, but it's really just flimflam IMO.
 
thfcsteff said:
I think this is pathetic TBH.

I get tired of it. Half the clams who go on and on about them and Hillborough and Heysel aren't old enough to remember either. I'll bet the vast majority have no idea what an old-school SF Hillsborough crush is like. Some of us do, and it is fudging scary. Some of us also realize we were lucky, that in '81 they let us onto the pitch during the first-half. Fortunately I'd learned my lesson at QPR away earlier in the competition and was not near those fences.What I had conveniently forgotten/erased from memory, was how some of ours then charged the other end at HT. Lovely. Not a drop of alcohol among them I'm sure.

It's so easy to slag them off based on a few, but it's really just flimflam IMO.
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Regardless of Hillborough, which I do think events/reaction do not paint them in a good light, they are a cult of victims that never make the right choice and always have an excuse. The example of the entire team wearing t-shirts to back Suarez is the perfect example.

Top down culture in that club is just dislikeable, and the fact that the media gives them a complete free ride just adds to it.
 
Raziel said:
Regardless of Hillborough, which I do think events/reaction do not paint them in a good light, they are a cult of victims that never make the right choice and always have an excuse. The example of the entire team wearing t-shirts to back Suarez is the perfect example.

Top down culture in that club is just dislikeable, and the fact that the media gives them a complete free ride just adds to it.
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No, sorry. Wrong. That's just a modern fan's perspective.
Below is a 2 min clip showing the Hillsborough I was at (again thankfully not near the surges). The police did the right thing that day. Lives were saved. Our supporters were, IMO, not to blame. I don't think the ones who decided to try and run the other end are "glorious", in fact I think they're tossers. All this gonads about "Liverpool fans shouldn't have arrived tight to time or drunk" is exactly that; gonads.

Here -for those who don't know and weren't there- is our Hillsborough. There but for the grace of something go many of ours...

 
thfcsteff said:
I think this is pathetic TBH.

I get tired of it. Half the clams who go on and on about them and Hillborough and Heysel aren't old enough to remember either. I'll bet the vast majority have no idea what an old-school SF Hillsborough crush is like. Some of us do, and it is fudging scary. Some of us also realize we were lucky, that in '81 they let us onto the pitch during the first-half. Fortunately I'd learned my lesson at QPR away earlier in the competition and was not near those fences.What I had conveniently forgotten/erased from memory, was how some of ours then charged the other end at HT. Lovely. Not a drop of alcohol among them I'm sure.

It's so easy to slag them off based on a few, but it's really just flimflam IMO.
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I was there in that crowd as well mate and it was awful and quite a lot of that went on in those days, however some Liverpool fans are scum and what happened on that day to them was shocking but to pretend they do not have history for causing problem around their games is just not true. And as you know i am old enough to have been around and going in those days.
 
parklane1 said:
I was there in that crowd as well mate and it was awful and quite a lot of that went on in those days, however some Liverpool fans are scum and what happened on that day to them was shocking but to pretend they do not have history for causing problem around their games is just not true. And as you know i am old enough to have been around and going in those days.
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It certainly was, and it did mate. As mentioned, QPR in there 3rd round terrified me!

You'd need to detail that for me mate. I don't think they have any worse a history than any club TBH. Been there 9 times total and each time, win/lose/draw I have had a great time and been treated well. If you're referring to Heysel, we know the real story...
 
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