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Tunisia

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A few of you may remember I worked out there for a few years which is why I had the user name tunisiaspurs.

The people of that country were never anything but kind and hospitable to me, I was in the area where the attacks were today. What I liked most about it was that in the bars you would have students and locals right along side holiday makers.

What has happened is an absolute disgrace, I met a few muslims out there and they will all lovely friendly people. I always thought that if you lived some where like that you would be happier and nicer. These terrorists are scum of the earth and have brought shame on a great many people.

I was working maintenance for Thomas Cook when I was out there, it is now 7 years since I been out there but I am concerned for the people I worked with as the were some real good people there.

More needs to be done by both the muslim community and the non muslim community to combat these psychos.
 
I think it's morally reprehensible that we, as an enlightened society, allow religion to exist.

Future generations will look back on our tolerance of religion the way we do at child sacrifices or slavery.

The very worst case scenario in removing religion from the world is that a few billion people get a bit less stupid.
 
scaramanga said:
I think it's morally reprehensible that we, as an enlightened society, allow religion to exist.

Future generations will look back on our tolerance of religion the way we do at child sacrifices or slavery.

The very worst case scenario in removing religion from the world is that a few billion people get a bit less stupid.
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I think loons who kill people would find some other cause to latch on to if there was no religion. (I'm not religious, so have no dog in the fight in that regard).
 
the dza said:
I think loons who kill people would find some other cause to latch on to if there was no religion. (I'm not religious, so have no dog in the fight in that regard).
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As much as I abhor religion this is the truth, mainly, imo, people decide what to fight for after they have decided to fight.
 
the dza said:
I think loons who kill people would find some other cause to latch on to if there was no religion. (I'm not religious, so have no dog in the fight in that regard).
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That's very true, but I think the claim of religious cause is enough to make people overly cautious IMO. Remove religion and then the world can see them for what they are and deal with them the way we deal with the rest of society's shoe scrapings.
 
the dza said:
There will be so much security in the aftermath of this, it will probably be the safest time to go.
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But you still have that fear factor and loads of security patrols and guards walking around the hotel / beach is abit of a put off.
 
galeforce said:
As much as I abhor religion this is the truth, mainly, imo, people decide what to fight for after they have decided to fight.
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Yep. Extremists are the problem IMO, whether religious, political, ideological or other. People who are too narrow minded and overly concerned with one particular belief, and consequently obsessed with imposing their one, true belief on everyone else, are the ones in danger of turning violent.
 
parklane1 said:
I get the point you are trying to make, however most if not all wars are fought in the name of religion of some sort.
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But don't you think if it wasn't because of religion people would find another reason to fight wars/blow themselves up? I think religion is used more as a justifying wool over the eyes covering the real motives.

I'm not religious but I do completely disagree with Scaras opinion, but I do appreciate it's perhaps not worth getting in to in this thread. My thoughts are with those truly affected
 
Sadly parklane, very true. Religion can be a force for great good, but all to often its used as a divide.
Whether it is the poor souls in Tunisia or charleston its tragic that the person in the street are targeted by these fanatics. Our thoughts should be with them all.
 
spurspinter1 said:
But don't you think if it wasn't because of religion people would find another reason to fight wars/blow themselves up? I think religion is used more as a justifying wool over the eyes covering the real motives.

I'm not religious but I do completely disagree with Scaras opinion, but I do appreciate it's perhaps not worth getting in to in this thread. My thoughts are with those truly affected
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Religion provides a shield for these people though. People respect and tread carefully around religion which gives these cvnts space to grow.

Currently they can meet and influence like-minded people under the protected guise of religion. Take away religion and they're left putting postcards in the window of a newsagent looking for w4nkers who want to blow people up and wear silly outfits.

And even if the upside isn't as great as I think it would be, it's a no-lose move as I said in my first post in the thread. The very least we do is make a few billion people a bit less dumb.
 
spurspinter1 said:
But don't you think if it wasn't because of religion people would find another reason to fight wars/blow themselves up? I think religion is used more as a justifying wool over the eyes covering the real motives.

I'm not religious but I do completely disagree with Scaras opinion, but I do appreciate it's perhaps not worth getting in to in this thread. My thoughts are with those truly affected
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Maybe, maybe not I have no idea. The facts are there is usually some GHod mentioned when people kill each other.
 
William Golding wrote one of the great novels of the 20th century, which nailed religion...Lord of the Flies. Religion is an invention of man to provide meaning in the darkness of night. Religion will also be used by the cynical, to control the masses. IMO, it is the last vestige of the primitive side of mankind.
 
scaramanga said:
Religion provides a shield for these people though. People respect and tread carefully around religion which gives these cvnts space to grow.

Currently they can meet and influence like-minded people under the protected guise of religion. Take away religion and they're left putting postcards in the window of a newsagent looking for w4nkers who want to blow people up and wear silly outfits.

And even if the upside isn't as great as I think it would be, it's a no-lose move as I said in my first post in the thread. The very least we do is make a few billion people a bit less dumb.
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In no way am I saying that Religion can't be used in a negative way/have a negative effect but if you choose to ignore a positive effect in can have then it is the same level of ignorance. As I said, not worth getting in to that on this thread.

One thing that is interesting is our media quoting "At least 15 Britons killed in etc etc....", not worth mentioning until we know for certain they're one of our own I guess.
 
parklane1 said:
Maybe, maybe not I have no idea. The facts are there is usually some GHod mentioned when people kill each other.
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Human nature is for us to fight and tear each other apart, whether it's under the guise of a magical elephant or a beardy bloke under the sky, we are scheming, violent and greedy beings that will have the tendency to want to take what is not ours, and that will result in wars. If you want to blame it on religion then feel free to do so, but if religion fades out of existence then there will still be governments and our natural impulses as humans; If that information makes you believe there won't be any war I wish I had as much faith in the human race as you do my friend!
 
spurspinter1 said:
Human nature is for us to fight and tear each other apart, whether it's under the guise of a magical elephant or a beardy bloke under the sky, we are scheming, violent and greedy beings that will have the tendency to want to take what is not ours, and that will result in wars. If you want to blame it on religion then feel free to do so, but if religion fades out of existence then there will still be governments and our natural impulses as humans; If that information makes you believe there won't be any war I wish I had as much faith in the human race as you do my friend!
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Speak for yourself. That is NOT MY NATURE mate. I live my life on another set of principles and natural instincts!
 
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