Grays_1890
Gary Stevens
who are we to tell people what they can or can't do when it's not affecting us
We no, but someone needs to take a decision somewhere or its chaos
who are we to tell people what they can or can't do when it's not affecting us
Over 18s males arent allowed to play contact sport with u16 males on safety grounds. You can do serious harm to people when strength and power are mismatched in sportA why if a gay men's team accepts you the competition accepts you the clubs your playing accepts you. Who are we to say sorry you can't play. this isn't him playing for Australia or even 1st grade
B this isn't elite sport this is amatuer sport were you'd be lucky to find changing rooms. My daughter plays rugby league half the team are gay & they would except & welcome a trans player as the rules don't bar them from playing unless it's changed in recent times
As for safety I have watched them play none hold back people get injured & hurt all the time
who are we to tell people what they can or can't do when it's not affecting us
Agreed but if women are happy to play with or against trans players especially amatuer teams we should step aside & let them play.We no, but someone needs to take a decision somewhere or its chaos
i am confused maybe it's my age men vs menOver 18s males arent allowed to play contact sport with u16 males on safety grounds. You can do serious harm to people when strength and power are mismatched in sport
Absolutely, and likewise if not then dialogue should be opened up which is seemingly what's happening more.Agreed but if women are happy to play with or against trans players especially amatuer teams we should step aside & let them play.
I just meant men are forbidden from playing against boys on safety grounds. And its the same issue with trans women against biological women. You just too easily hurt people that are physically matched against.i am confused maybe it's my age men vs men
do trans players play under 16 or under 18s in the uk
Its the safety, not the competitiveness. For contact sports anywayAgreed but if women are happy to play with or against trans players especially amatuer teams we should step aside & let them play.
So do you believe women who have transitioned like the story above shouldn't be allowed to play mens sport.
What if the women are happy for the men who have transitioned to play do we override them & say no.
Its the safety, not the competitiveness. For contact sports anyway
Although even on competitiveness, park run get a lot of hassle about the high proportion of women's race won by trans women
Well there's already Queens of the South. Someone set up Queens of the North and we've got a competition goingFor me the bigger issue is inclusion, make it work, you can’t do what the FA have just done and tell a group of women they are no longer welcome to play the sport and have to go and do something else.
Segregation of sport, distilled down to only two genders, is downright insulting to anybody not cis.
Absolutely, and likewise if not then dialogue should be opened up which is seemingly what's happening more.
Problem is they are quite rare. Less than 1/1000 people. So you probably dont have enough 18-35 age range in a town to make a football team, even if everyone wanted to playLikewise more needs to be done so that women feel comfortable in speaking out if they are against trans women participating in women’s sports and that they don’t feel like they can’t have an opinion. Nothing against trans women or trans people full stop participating in sport, they just need their own category.
Problem is they are quite rare. Less than 1/1000 people. So you probably dont have enough 18-35 age range in a town to make a football team, even if everyone wanted to play
Agreed but if women are happy to play with or against trans players especially amatuer teams we should step aside & let them play.
That’s unfortunate but you have to consider fairness and safety above inclusion. It’s better than not being able to compete at all.
But that’s what’s happening, these women now can’t compete at all, the FA have told them they are no longer welcome to play.
That's the second time I have heard that argument. I don't think anyone should be slaughtered or shouted down all points of view should be listened to. I certainly haven't shouted anyone down.Look at the people that have stood up and said something though. Jk rowling got slaughtered. Sharon davies also.
So you would be happy for someone who has transitioned or who identifies as a woman to enter mens changing rooms. Or should they have separate changing rooms & make them feel even more isolatedThey can. Just in their original sex category.
So you would be happy for someone who has transitioned or who identifies as a woman to enter mens changing rooms. Or should they have separate changing rooms & make them feel even more isolated