Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
See the photo. He can’t be offside as the foul takes precedence (I assume as it’s a worse offence). I’d also say that at the speed they move at that was more than enough to knock him over
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See the photo. He can’t be offside as the foul takes precedence (I assume as it’s a worse offence). I’d also say that at the speed they move at that was more than enough to knock him over
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
They were well orgnaised and hard working
They need a jump in quality which their not getting with their limited budget though
Also thought they spent a lot of the game worried about stopping us
glasgowspur
Colin Calderwood
I've yet to see a proper still showing Harry offside, the BT sport ones the ball had clearly moved at least a yard. Rule is when the ball is played, not a yard later.
Gazza Dazzla
Christian Ziege
Mate come on, it was a clear foul on Kane!
DeanoAustin
Les Ferdinand
You’re right, by the letter of the law he actually wasn’t but I didn’t realise that till after the game and saw it online. I’d also be steaming if we conceded a penalty on a technicality like that. You are correct though. I wonder if that’s why the linesman kept his flag down or if he just thought Kane was on.
Disagree with Jurgen on the contact. Thought Kane got a fairly hefty knock.
nayenezgani
Jimmy Neighbour
Wtf?! He shoulder charged Kane directly in the back, at full gallop. If that's not a foul nothing is. Absurd comment.
DeanoAustin
Les Ferdinand
The other thing I love about JJs reaction above actually is how dejected he looks before the penalty.
Watching it, I fudged my phone off the table and sat there slumped in my chair and resigned to losing the game. Didn’t want to engage with anyone and a million thoughts went through my head about what this defeat meant for our season. You can see JJ is doing the same.
That’s what so fudging wonderful about this game. You can go from that sort of dejection to ecstasy in one kick of a ball. Magic.
Watching it, I fudged my phone off the table and sat there slumped in my chair and resigned to losing the game. Didn’t want to engage with anyone and a million thoughts went through my head about what this defeat meant for our season. You can see JJ is doing the same.
That’s what so fudging wonderful about this game. You can go from that sort of dejection to ecstasy in one kick of a ball. Magic.
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
I think the lino just missed it
Their is so much debate about it which I find odd
People in the game like shearer are arguing Kane is going for the ball so is offside as he is active..
I assume it came in via the non interferring rule change for offside
nelto
Clint Dempsey
Absolutely! I was at the game yesterday. I was well up for it. Gutted when Ramsey scored. Cheered when Harry scored, but was disallowed, boo. Roared for the penalty award. Shaking when Harry buried it. Rock bottom when Taylor awarded them the pen. Roared when Hugo saved it, nearly jumped out of the stadium when Jan blocked the rebound. Rollercoaster!
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
When I saw it live I thought it was offside and I’ve seen nothing to change my mind.
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
Only the rules??
It doesn’t matter if your in an offside position until you go for the ball
Kane couldn’t go for the call as he was fouled before hand hence why it’s a penalty
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Has the rule changed then? I thought the rule was when the ball is played if you’re in an offside position then you’re offside, which Kane was when Eriksen kicked the ball.
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
Read the post I made earlier quoting you
Your only offside when you go for the ball. If your fouled before attempting to play the ball (like kane was) then it’s a foul. It’s basically your not interfering with play until you actually attempt to play the ball. Simply running wouldn’t count unless you go for the ball and Kane couldn’t as he was fouled when attempting to go for the ball
RunTMC
Luke Young
I think there has been a slight change. You’re not offside until you play the ball or attempt to play the ball. Only at that point does the linesman put his flag up for offside.
I prefer the old way when they raised it immediately.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
As soon as the pen was given my mates all left their seats to go and im not sure if they were around to see the wsave and clearance from Jan
90sSpursBook
Erik Edman
It's not so much as the rule (law) has changed more that the interpretation has changed. Either way it was applied correctly in awarding the foul and not the offside - generally any changes to offside law and/or interpretation are made in order to aid the attacking team and thus make the game more enjoyable.
Had Kane touched the ball first and then been fouled then the correct decision would have been to award the offside as that is the point that he becomes active.
The slight red herring in this incident is that the linesman is not in line and so doesn't get the perfect view looking across; however, regardless of this had he had a clear view he still would have kept his flag down.
We benefited from another real technicality of the offside law last season at Anfield with the first penalty when Kane appeared to be offside from dele's through ball; on that occasion whilst he was clearly offside and received the ball from dele's forward pass the fact that an opponent (Lovren) clearly made a deliberate contact of the ball nullified all else before it.
This therefore isn't getting lucky and i'm sure we'd point to many occasions where decisions have gone against us. For me, we got far luckier by Vertonghen not being penalised for encroachment for the saved penalty or Rose only receiving a yellow. By letter of law penalty could easily have been reordered to be taken and Rose shown a red.
glasgowspur
Colin Calderwood
A red for rose would have been extremely harsh imo, its a loose ball the keeper has fumbled, rose has every right to go for that. I've not seen a replay but as I seen it it was as much the moving towards rose as it was rose foot going through the ball.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Tom Huddlestone
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Just checked my video recording frame by frame which shows that Kane was also in an offside position in all the frames immediately before the one BT used.
But it's irrelevant because the rules (below) say the foul takes precedence until the moment he touches the ball.
Wonder whether Shearer bothered to read the rules?
Offside offence
A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is touched or played by a teammate is only penalised for committing an offside offence if, in the opinion of the referee, they become involved in active play by:
Interfering with play
"playing or touching the ball passed or touched by a team-mate"[1]