K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Ian Walker
I always find people saying things differently is a good things, what I dislike is being told to pronounce things differently after years of saying it a certain way Nestles and Knorr are classic cases.
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Tottenham Hotspur Stadium - Licence To Stand
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ShipOfTheseus
Clint Dempsey
Nessles?
Kuh-norr?
Shimbomba.
Kuh-norr?
Shimbomba.
Whiffler
Jermaine Jenas
Ghoti & chips for me on a Friday.
How do we pronounce the word "ghoti"?
The answer is "fish".
How can "ghoti" and "fish" sound the same?
The answer is "fish".
How can "ghoti" and "fish" sound the same?
- gh = f as in rouGH
- o = i as in wOmen
- ti = sh as in naTIon
Exclusive: The government has been urged to act on the findings of a Construction Newsinvestigation into working conditions on the Tottenham Hotspur stadium project.
Construction News has been told by workers on the scheme that many were working long hours as the handover deadline approached, and has also obtained evidence of workers being incentivised to undertake back-to-back 12-hour shifts.
An email to staff from one subcontractor on the project, seen by CN, offers workers an extra four hours’ pay if they work four 12-hour shifts in a row.
CN has also discovered multiple job adverts, posted by recruitment agencies on a major UK job site, for roles involving 16-hour days and 80-hour weeks.
The posts call for workers who can take on “long hours” as the project “has to be kept to extremely tight deadlines”.
One night labourer advertisement requests workers who can do “80 hours per week”, while another for a handyman role advertises working hours of “8 hours a day to 16 hours”.
Responding to CN’s findings, a spokesperson for Mace said the contractor was “aware of the risks of overworking on such a busy project”, adding that the firm was carrying out random spot checks with subcontractors to make sure staff working longer hours were given breaks and rest periods.
There is no suggestion that Mace was involved in creating or posting the job adverts seen by CN.
A worker who left the project due to the working conditions, and spoke to CN on the condition of anonymity, described how the project’s intensity had increased ahead of a test event at the new ground in late August.
“All our supervisors came and said, ‘It’s crunch time, we need you to do a lot more work’,” they said.
The former worker said conditions on site had become challenging as more and more workers were brought in.
“There were so many people there when you were walking round the corner you’d nearly be being hit in the face by stuff. Compared to other jobs it just seemed very rushed.
“One of my colleagues – an experienced electrician – said he felt he should go to the Health and Safety Executive, he’d never worked on a site like that.
“He reckoned it was overcrowded and there were too many trades. There was an accident waiting to happen.”
The current total workforce on site is just over 3,800 people, CN understands, with around 100 staff being given a full health, safety and wellbeing induction on the project each day.
In response to CN’s investigation, Labour’s shadow minister for labour Justin Madders called on the government to act to ensure those working on the project were doing so safely.
“Terms and conditions that put the welfare of workers at risk are unacceptable and the source of these adverts must be thoroughly investigated as a matter of urgency,” he said
“This is a high-profile project which should be founded on a gold standard of health and safety. A tight timeframe is no excuse for working conditions that can put people at risk.
“The government must act immediately to ensure all those working on Tottenham’s stadium are doing so safely and are not being forced to work dangerously long hours.”
A Mace spokesperson said the business would continue to work with Tottenham Hotspur to identify areas of improvement around health and safety as the project entered its final phase
They said: “As [is] normal with a project of this size, which is comparable to projects like the Olympic Park or Heathrow Terminal 5, during the final phases of construction activity ramps up.
“This will come as no surprise to anyone with experience in our industry.
“The health, safety and wellbeing of everyone working on our projects is our highest priority, and we are committed to making sure that everyone on our projects goes home safely at the end of each day.
“As with any project, there is always room for improvement, and we are constantly working with our client, supply chain and operatives to identify areas where we need to do better.”
A Tottenham Hotspur Football Club spokesperson said: “Our stadium construction partners Mace are in control of the stadium site and we expect them to uphold the requisite welfare rights of all contractors.
“They have assured us that they supply the appropriate level of welfare facilities, in line with industry standards for a site of this size, and reiterated that the health and safety of all those on site is of paramount importance to them.”
A spokesperson for the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy said: “The UK has some of the most robust protections for employees and safest workplaces in the world.
“Employees with concerns can raise a complaint through the Health and Safety Executive for safety issues and get support on workplace disputes from the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service.”
https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/...es-offered-as-deadline-looms/10033729.article
Construction News has been told by workers on the scheme that many were working long hours as the handover deadline approached, and has also obtained evidence of workers being incentivised to undertake back-to-back 12-hour shifts.
An email to staff from one subcontractor on the project, seen by CN, offers workers an extra four hours’ pay if they work four 12-hour shifts in a row.
CN has also discovered multiple job adverts, posted by recruitment agencies on a major UK job site, for roles involving 16-hour days and 80-hour weeks.
The posts call for workers who can take on “long hours” as the project “has to be kept to extremely tight deadlines”.
One night labourer advertisement requests workers who can do “80 hours per week”, while another for a handyman role advertises working hours of “8 hours a day to 16 hours”.
Responding to CN’s findings, a spokesperson for Mace said the contractor was “aware of the risks of overworking on such a busy project”, adding that the firm was carrying out random spot checks with subcontractors to make sure staff working longer hours were given breaks and rest periods.
There is no suggestion that Mace was involved in creating or posting the job adverts seen by CN.
A worker who left the project due to the working conditions, and spoke to CN on the condition of anonymity, described how the project’s intensity had increased ahead of a test event at the new ground in late August.
“All our supervisors came and said, ‘It’s crunch time, we need you to do a lot more work’,” they said.
The former worker said conditions on site had become challenging as more and more workers were brought in.
“There were so many people there when you were walking round the corner you’d nearly be being hit in the face by stuff. Compared to other jobs it just seemed very rushed.
“One of my colleagues – an experienced electrician – said he felt he should go to the Health and Safety Executive, he’d never worked on a site like that.
“He reckoned it was overcrowded and there were too many trades. There was an accident waiting to happen.”
The current total workforce on site is just over 3,800 people, CN understands, with around 100 staff being given a full health, safety and wellbeing induction on the project each day.
In response to CN’s investigation, Labour’s shadow minister for labour Justin Madders called on the government to act to ensure those working on the project were doing so safely.
“Terms and conditions that put the welfare of workers at risk are unacceptable and the source of these adverts must be thoroughly investigated as a matter of urgency,” he said
“This is a high-profile project which should be founded on a gold standard of health and safety. A tight timeframe is no excuse for working conditions that can put people at risk.
“The government must act immediately to ensure all those working on Tottenham’s stadium are doing so safely and are not being forced to work dangerously long hours.”
A Mace spokesperson said the business would continue to work with Tottenham Hotspur to identify areas of improvement around health and safety as the project entered its final phase
They said: “As [is] normal with a project of this size, which is comparable to projects like the Olympic Park or Heathrow Terminal 5, during the final phases of construction activity ramps up.
“This will come as no surprise to anyone with experience in our industry.
“The health, safety and wellbeing of everyone working on our projects is our highest priority, and we are committed to making sure that everyone on our projects goes home safely at the end of each day.
“As with any project, there is always room for improvement, and we are constantly working with our client, supply chain and operatives to identify areas where we need to do better.”
A Tottenham Hotspur Football Club spokesperson said: “Our stadium construction partners Mace are in control of the stadium site and we expect them to uphold the requisite welfare rights of all contractors.
“They have assured us that they supply the appropriate level of welfare facilities, in line with industry standards for a site of this size, and reiterated that the health and safety of all those on site is of paramount importance to them.”
A spokesperson for the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy said: “The UK has some of the most robust protections for employees and safest workplaces in the world.
“Employees with concerns can raise a complaint through the Health and Safety Executive for safety issues and get support on workplace disputes from the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service.”
https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/...es-offered-as-deadline-looms/10033729.article
ShipOfTheseus
Clint Dempsey
So if you advertise jobs on a competitor to Construction News, they'll turn them into a scare story and poke DBEIS with sharp sticks in the hope of getting you and the prime contractor into trouble?
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Ian Walker
Fine if that's the way you want to spell it as long as you don't start telling me what I have to do.
Whiffler
Jermaine Jenas
I did say 'for me'
PochettinoPochettinoPochettino
Serge Aurier
This is definitely a worthy discussion for increasing the pages on this thread.
JerusalemMan
Chris Perry
Or:
A man who didn't dare put his name to the guff he was about to spout, said that a mate of his was thinking about reporting the iffy working conditions necessitated by a massively complex job with a tight deadline but was pulling in so much money as a result that he thought he just moan to those around him.
It's hardly Qatar, is it?
MKSpur
Christian Ziege
Maybe we’ve seen that the conditions in Qatar have been punished by them being able to move the tournament to a schedule suits them...so maybe the Prem will start in October this season just for us.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Against EU law to make people work like that.
Frankly that's it for me im done with spurs, breaking EU law means I can no longer support spurs.
I am off to drink coffee read the guardian an enrol on a university course in European politics.
All you spurs fans are going to hell.
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Lol Nutella I’m not a psycho.
What kind of fudging pussies can't do long hours when needed?
And what kind of union clam takes anything to the HSE? clams.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
Qatar should hardly be the benchmark either. And there is nothing wrong with (valid) anonymous whistleblowing if through the right channels. Of which Construction News is clearly not one. This does just sound like someone (if indeed there is a real person behind it at all) having a moan or making bad press for the sake of it.
I would expect that we (Mace) have the right safeguards in place and I am sure that is the case. There is undoubtedly a lot of pressure - and maybe incentives - on the various firms involved to complete on time and that may lead to less then optimal procedures being followed by some. If someone is being asked/forced to work illegal or unsafe hours, then take it up with the firm doing the hiring (or don’t apply in the first place). But don’t try to pin it on the club.
If there was anything amiss then the HSE would be all over us like a rash. I am sure they keep tabs on huge projects such as this.
Mischief making, no more imo.
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Easiest thing in the world for rival fans to stir up brown stuff. Likewise a genuine complaint can be too easily dismissed on the same pretext .
If complaint is genuine it's up to the authorities to investigate dispassionately. The legislation is in place so use it.
Meanwhile until a case is brought before a tribunal this whole thing should be treated as just a bit of brick stirring by rival scum.
If complaint is genuine it's up to the authorities to investigate dispassionately. The legislation is in place so use it.
Meanwhile until a case is brought before a tribunal this whole thing should be treated as just a bit of brick stirring by rival scum.
Bullet
Colin Calderwood
Those padded, heated seats at 21:50, very nice. Look like the "bench" seats the players sit on... makes the padded, heated seats at 23:10 look super basic!