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Tottenham Hotspur Stadium - Licence To Stand

Gutter Boy said:
The great in Great Britain isn't even meant to mean great. It's a shortening of greater, and was just used to signify the expansion when Britain (England and Wales) colonised Scotland.
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"Great" does not have just one meaning and neither indeed does "greater", but they don't mean the same as each other in any event.
Great Britain consists of England, Wales and Northern Ireland, which form the Island of Great Britain and have done since time immemorial. In Roman Times Britannia was to all intents and purposes England, Wales was Cambria, and Scotland was Caledonia (Ireland was Hibernia). The term Great Britain came into use to distinguish the island from its constituent parts. In 1284 the Principality of Wales came under the power of English Kings. The Laws in Wales Acts 1545-1553 incorporated Wales into England. In 1603 on the accession of James VI of Scotland became James I of England and Wales. Thenceforth every King or Queen of England and Wales was also that of Scotland. In 1707 the State of Great Britain came into existence, consisting of the island of Great Britain. The name of the state was changed in 1801 to Great Britain and Ireland, when the two elements were unified. This changed in 1922 to Great Britain and Northern Ireland after the Irish Free State was formed.
Note that in French, Great Britain is "La Grande Bretagne" distinguishing it from Bretagne which is Brittany. But it is not known as "La Plus Grande Bretagne" any more than in German it is known as GrosserBritannien rather than GrossBritannien, as you seek to imply.
The concept of Greater Britain has two disparate aspects entirely different to what you have stated:
One was a publication of Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists in the 1930's.
The other was a Victorian movement which envisaged a greater union between Great Britain and Ireland and the "settler colonies" such as Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
So "Great" in "Great Britain" did not signify magnificent or powerful, but anyone trying to suggest that Great Britain has never been a World Power and its subjects proud of that fact, or even more nonsensically that the United States has never been in that situation is seriously deluded. Indeed Great Britain and the USA amongst others were known throughout the World during the first half of the twentieth century as the "Great Powers". Therefore it seems to me that wanting to "Make America great again" or indeed "Make Britain great again" is not a contradiction in terms as is suggested here. There may be some who are uncomfortable with the idea of their country being great in this sense, but there are others who disagree.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
That’s normal for any venue though
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Im not sure what point you're making mate - im saying i hope we have grow lights where the pitch will be stored so it doesnt stop us from hosting events where it could be out of sunlight for an extended period of time
 
LesMedley said:
"Great" does not have just one meaning and neither indeed does "greater", but they don't mean the same as each other in any event.
Great Britain consists of England, Wales and Northern Ireland, which form the Island of Great Britain and have done since time immemorial. In Roman Times Britannia was to all intents and purposes England, Wales was Cambria, and Scotland was Caledonia (Ireland was Hibernia). The term Great Britain came into use to distinguish the island from its constituent parts. In 1284 the Principality of Wales came under the power of English Kings. The Laws in Wales Acts 1545-1553 incorporated Wales into England. In 1603 on the accession of James VI of Scotland became James I of England and Wales. Thenceforth every King or Queen of England and Wales was also that of Scotland. In 1707 the State of Great Britain came into existence, consisting of the island of Great Britain. The name of the state was changed in 1801 to Great Britain and Ireland, when the two elements were unified. This changed in 1922 to Great Britain and Northern Ireland after the Irish Free State was formed.
Note that in French, Great Britain is "La Grande Bretagne" distinguishing it from Bretagne which is Brittany. But it is not known as "La Plus Grande Bretagne" any more than in German it is known as GrosserBritannien rather than GrossBritannien, as you seek to imply.
The concept of Greater Britain has two disparate aspects entirely different to what you have stated:
One was a publication of Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists in the 1930's.
The other was a Victorian movement which envisaged a greater union between Great Britain and Ireland and the "settler colonies" such as Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
So "Great" in "Great Britain" did not signify magnificent or powerful, but anyone trying to suggest that Great Britain has never been a World Power and its subjects proud of that fact, or even more nonsensically that the United States has never been in that situation is seriously deluded. Indeed Great Britain and the USA amongst others were known throughout the World during the first half of the twentieth century as the "Great Powers". Therefore it seems to me that wanting to "Make America great again" or indeed "Make Britain great again" is not a contradiction in terms as is suggested here. There may be some who are uncomfortable with the idea of their country being great in this sense, but there are others who disagree.
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Unfortunately you only need to watch gameshows on tv or talk to anyone under 50 and you realise they know little to nothing about the history of our country.
 
LesMedley said:
"Great" does not have just one meaning and neither indeed does "greater", but they don't mean the same as each other in any event.
Great Britain consists of England, Wales and Northern Ireland, which form the Island of Great Britain and have done since time immemorial. In Roman Times Britannia was to all intents and purposes England, Wales was Cambria, and Scotland was Caledonia (Ireland was Hibernia). The term Great Britain came into use to distinguish the island from its constituent parts. In 1284 the Principality of Wales came under the power of English Kings. The Laws in Wales Acts 1545-1553 incorporated Wales into England. In 1603 on the accession of James VI of Scotland became James I of England and Wales. Thenceforth every King or Queen of England and Wales was also that of Scotland. In 1707 the State of Great Britain came into existence, consisting of the island of Great Britain. The name of the state was changed in 1801 to Great Britain and Ireland, when the two elements were unified. This changed in 1922 to Great Britain and Northern Ireland after the Irish Free State was formed.
Note that in French, Great Britain is "La Grande Bretagne" distinguishing it from Bretagne which is Brittany. But it is not known as "La Plus Grande Bretagne" any more than in German it is known as GrosserBritannien rather than GrossBritannien, as you seek to imply.
The concept of Greater Britain has two disparate aspects entirely different to what you have stated:
One was a publication of Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists in the 1930's.
The other was a Victorian movement which envisaged a greater union between Great Britain and Ireland and the "settler colonies" such as Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
So "Great" in "Great Britain" did not signify magnificent or powerful, but anyone trying to suggest that Great Britain has never been a World Power and its subjects proud of that fact, or even more nonsensically that the United States has never been in that situation is seriously deluded. Indeed Great Britain and the USA amongst others were known throughout the World during the first half of the twentieth century as the "Great Powers". Therefore it seems to me that wanting to "Make America great again" or indeed "Make Britain great again" is not a contradiction in terms as is suggested here. There may be some who are uncomfortable with the idea of their country being great in this sense, but there are others who disagree.
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Click and paste award of the year goes to you.

A decent, kind, humble and outward looking country yes please. Great, no ta thanks very much.
 
The west stand entrance is going to be awfully close to the road isnt it. Presume there will be concrete bollards so no maniac can drive into it, or so that people can't just get dropped off right outside the stadium before the match!
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Click and paste award of the year goes to you.

A decent, kind, humble and outward looking country yes please. Great, no ta thanks very much.
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Why can't a country be both?
Indeed, why wouldn't a country with the attributes you like not Great? If said country had those attributes then I think they would be very justified in adding Great to their name.
 
LesMedley said:
"Great" does not have just one meaning and neither indeed does "greater", but they don't mean the same as each other in any event.
Great Britain consists of England, Wales and Northern Ireland, which form the Island of Great Britain and have done since time immemorial. In Roman Times Britannia was to all intents and purposes England, Wales was Cambria, and Scotland was Caledonia (Ireland was Hibernia). The term Great Britain came into use to distinguish the island from its constituent parts. In 1284 the Principality of Wales came under the power of English Kings. The Laws in Wales Acts 1545-1553 incorporated Wales into England. In 1603 on the accession of James VI of Scotland became James I of England and Wales. Thenceforth every King or Queen of England and Wales was also that of Scotland. In 1707 the State of Great Britain came into existence, consisting of the island of Great Britain. The name of the state was changed in 1801 to Great Britain and Ireland, when the two elements were unified. This changed in 1922 to Great Britain and Northern Ireland after the Irish Free State was formed.
Note that in French, Great Britain is "La Grande Bretagne" distinguishing it from Bretagne which is Brittany. But it is not known as "La Plus Grande Bretagne" any more than in German it is known as GrosserBritannien rather than GrossBritannien, as you seek to imply.
The concept of Greater Britain has two disparate aspects entirely different to what you have stated:
One was a publication of Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists in the 1930's.
The other was a Victorian movement which envisaged a greater union between Great Britain and Ireland and the "settler colonies" such as Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
So "Great" in "Great Britain" did not signify magnificent or powerful, but anyone trying to suggest that Great Britain has never been a World Power and its subjects proud of that fact, or even more nonsensically that the United States has never been in that situation is seriously deluded. Indeed Great Britain and the USA amongst others were known throughout the World during the first half of the twentieth century as the "Great Powers". Therefore it seems to me that wanting to "Make America great again" or indeed "Make Britain great again" is not a contradiction in terms as is suggested here. There may be some who are uncomfortable with the idea of their country being great in this sense, but there are others who disagree.
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Eh? You've just made that all up to sound knowledgeable. I'll stick with Gutterboy's facts thanks.
 
billyiddo said:
Im not sure what point you're making mate - im saying i hope we have grow lights where the pitch will be stored so it doesnt stop us from hosting events where it could be out of sunlight for an extended period of time
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Id doubt its out of sunlight for more than a few days

We wont be having long term events there IMO as there are other venues that are more aligned to that
 
I was thinking we might even stow the pitch away if there's a lot of bad weather. i.e. heavy rain/snow.

Imagine it's been snowing all day for a couple of days and we can roll out a perfect pitch?
 
mudshark said:
Eh? "Great" Britain just means the largest of the islands in the archipelago. No more, no less.
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Yes, this goes back to classical times with Greek and Roman writers:

Ptolemy, in his Almagest, used Brettania and Brettanikai nēsoi to refer to the island group and the terms megale Brettania (Great Britain) and mikra Brettania (little Britain*) for the islands of Great Britain and Ireland, respectively. (source)​

* Not the TV show.
 
jts1882 said:
Yes, this goes back to classical times with Greek and Roman writers:

Ptolemy, in his Almagest, used Brettania and Brettanikai nēsoi to refer to the island group and the terms megale Brettania (Great Britain) and mikra Brettania (little Britain*) for the islands of Great Britain and Ireland, respectively. (source)​

* Not the TV show.
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The Romans also used to call England 'Britain Superior' and Scotland 'Britain Inferior'
 
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