Lemonade Money
Les Medley
The top of the kop looks like a bit of a brick viewing distance.This one has the Olympic stadium outlines in red on top.
Spammers will only fill the lower tiers anyway so they're probably not bothered.
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Tottenham Hotspur Stadium - Licence To Stand
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Spammers will only fill the lower tiers anyway so they're probably not bothered.
Gazza
Frederic Kanoute
Its not so much about the distance than it is about the gradient of the seating. Our kop end is at a steeper gradient i believe which means that our fans have a better view and are in turn closer to the pitch than someone sitting at the caravan park with its length and gently sloped seating.
Notmegov
Roman Pavlyuchenko
Not to sure about corruption, more about very large sums of money being offered by Roman more than we would have offered (probably).
But then again it is those twunts so you can't rule it out.
Kandi1977
Garth Crooks
Tottenham Hotspur Supporters’ Trust
Tottenham Hotspur Football Club
Board to Board Meeting
Minutes
Tuesday 29 September 2015
1. Stadium/ Northumberland Development Project
Tottenham Hotspur Football Club
Board to Board Meeting
Minutes
Tuesday 29 September 2015
1. Stadium/ Northumberland Development Project
- DL opened up the meeting with a presentation on the stadium project
- DL explained the 3 phases of development: Phase 1 was the build of Lilywhite House, now completed. Phase 2 is the stadium and Phase 3 the southern development including the residential towers, hotel, extreme sports centre, the museum and also the Health Centre in the northern part of the development
- DL reiterated the stadium would be a new landmark for London
- The largest club stadium in London, the second largest club stadium in the UK
- The 17,000 seater ‘kop end‘ was highlighted as a unique feature
- The new next generation General Admission area in the South Stand was positively received
- DL referenced the significance of the 10 year partnership with the NFL – THFC intend to engender closer links moving forward
- The stadium development represents true sports led regeneration that would now see the redevelopment of this area across a 130 acre site, including 10,000 new homes
- The Club’s scheme would result in an increase of £173m extra local spend per year bringing this to £290m and would create 3,700 jobs
- As the pre consultation phase has now concluded, MC asked whether any changes have been made to the stadium design as a result of feedback
- DMC confirmed that the West Stand elevation was being looked at again as a result of THST member input ahead of the meeting with Populous in July, feedback from the Council design panel and the Club’s wish to see an improved main entrance
- The Club consultation period has been very positive
- DMC circulated a hard copy of a summary of the consultation feedback, which would be made public along with the planning apps
- The designs were now in a consultation period with Haringey Council, which concludes on 16 October
- DMC made the point that although there was overwhelming support and backing for the project from Spurs fans, a key focus was local residents and it was important to convey that the scheme delivered real community benefits
- KF referenced the consultation meeting he had attended at Northumberland Park School and the resistance from a few local residents at that session. DMC agreed that particular session had seen the local community raise their concerns; the following two consultation meetings had gone well and the Club had ensured that the community issues were covered
- MC asked whether Historic England had objected to the demolition of the heritage buildings, as was reported in the media last week
- DMC explained that the quotes were made some months ago and prior to the current application being made. Historic England are now involved in workshops with Haringey and THFC and discussions are ongoing
- DMC explained that THFC had worked hard to preserve the buildings at the North end (Northern Terrace) of the development and had made a significant investment in protecting heritage assets locally
- However, the individual buildings to the South presented a safety issue which both the Club and the architects considered untenable
- The CCTV footage of numerous near misses with fans walking in the bus lane where the section of pavement in front of the houses is significantly narrower meant there was a very real issue here
- DMC confirmed that the three buildings in question were locally listed and the decision therefore lay with Haringey Council
- The fourth building, the higher listed Grade II Warmington House, has been worked into the fabric of the development, forming the entrance to the museum
- There are also plans for the Foundation to move into Percy House
- MC raised point 6.3 of the latest planning application which stated the possibility of Spurs remaining at White Hart Lane during the construction period – an idea which had been mothballed last year by THFC. Was this an oversight?
- DL asked for this section to be shared and KL read the relevant section to the group
- The Club explained that the application required that a range of options be considered and this had been undertaken but the submission makes the need to move away clear
- MC then asked whether Neale Coleman moving from the GLA to Jeremy Corbyn’s office would have an impact on the wider Haringey planning proposals. DMC didn’t think this would be the case as the Club would now be working closely with other senior officials at the GLA, who have all been heavily involved in the process for several years
- DL suggested letters of support for the planning permission would again be welcomed. THST agreed to discuss outside of the meeting
- MC asked for an update on the current basement level work. Was this all on track and going to plan? DL confirmed the basement build programme was on schedule and progressing well
- MC asked whether there were any issues with access following the closure of Paxton Road this season. ST and IM confirmed there had been no problems and access to the stadium was smoother than when the road had been open
- MC then asked whether the new ticket collection points were working well. IM confirmed they were working better than when the windows had been located in Paxton Road
- AB asked for an update on funding for the stadium build. Was the money in place? How would the project be financed? What was it going to cost? DL broke down the general sources of funding into debt, naming rights and advance sale of tickets – both corporate and season tickets
- Rothschild are currently working with THFC to secure the optimum financing packages with the banks
- KL asked whether the tender process had now been completed. DL explained that this was ongoing
- KL asked what the sequence of events was. DL explained that planning permission needed to come first, followed by main contractor appointment, then bank finance plus equity with naming rights coming later
- KL asked for clarification of the timeline. DL responded that a contractor should be in place in Q1/Q2 2016, planning permission would hopefully be granted in February 2016 and the financing should also be in place during Q2 of 2016
- KL asked whether the date of Summer 2018 was still achievable considering that timeline. DL confirmed it was still the aim to have the stadium opened in August 2018 but all should recognise this is an enormous project with many complexities and difficulties
- THST stressed communication with supporters was vitally important during this process. The microsite and the webcam were acknowledged to be helping thus far but it was imperative fans were kept in the loop as much as possible. The Club confirmed that a full comms programme would continue
- MC asked whether the current issues with London Overground’s match day service could impact on the planning applications. This was not thought to be the case and THFC advised the problems are being rectified
- The problems encountered since LOROL took over the Abelio line were acknowledged by all present
- JW thought a normal service would be in place for the Chelsea match and agreed to confirm with LOROL after the meeting
Kandi1977
Garth Crooks
2. Ground share
Update on London Ground for a London Club campaign
Update on London Ground for a London Club campaign
- KL updated the Club Board on progress with Trust work on the London Ground for a London Club campaign, specifically pushing for Wembley and publicising the support of key figures such as Boris Johnson and the FA’s Glenn Moore for Spurs playing at Wembley
- KL asked for clarification of the position regarding negotiations over Wembley
- DL said that the FA’s stance for some time had been that it was a national stadium and they were not interested in any Premier League club playing at Wembley. So, despite offers from THFC, there had been no willingness from the FA to progress discussions
- Chelsea FC’s offer of a four-year deal, which would deliver a substantial sum of money, had changed this position and the FA would now consider a PL team
- A four-year deal was thought to be far more attractive to Wembley than a one-year deal, although DL stressed the ‘per season’ income to Wembley was unlikely to be materially different from either Club. DL also felt that the FA acknowledged the need to treat clubs equally
- The FA has now said it will go away and consider the practicalities of a ground share. Until that is decided, no further discussions can take place
- KL asked for clarification of the decision makers here. DL confirmed that the Wembley Board will give a recommendation to the FA Board, who will make the ultimate decision
- KL asked what the deadline was for Spurs to have a decision about where they would be playing in 2017/18 if the current stadium build timetable was adhered to. DMC and DL said that March 2017 would be the deadline
- The best outcome for Spurs would be that Chelsea do not require the stadium for 2017/18 and/or that the FA grant Spurs the season of 2017/18 with Chelsea having the following four seasons
- The Club also underlined that Wembley was the only neutral option
- KL also updated on the work of the 14 Trust-strong fan coalition seeking to get the details of the deal between the London Legacy Development Corporation and West Ham United over the Olympic Stadium made public. It was stressed that the coalition’s approach here was twofold, to seek to address the issue of unfair competitive advantage being given to one club, and to ease the burden on the taxpayer that helped provide that competitive advantage
- KL asked if the possibility of the Olympic Stadium being a potential ground share venue was being considered
- KL and MC said that information already received as a result of Freedom of Information requests indicated that, whilst West Ham United may have a priority usage clause, they did not have a veto over who used the stadium: the club was merely a tenant
- DL said that, should the Olympic Stadium become a possibility, THFC had a responsibility to consider it, but Wembley was the preferred venue as it was a neutral venue
- KL put the view that the financial damage done to the THFC brand by not staying in London while West Ham United were aggressively being marketed as ‘West Ham United London’ would be considerable
- KL sought clarification of THFC’s current position
- DL reiterated his view that the Club’s Board had a responsibility to secure a venue for the ground share season wherever it could, accepting that we might not be able to find an option to suit all
- THST reiterated its Pro London position over this matter and the Club acknowledged this
Kandi1977
Garth Crooks
Daniel Levy stressed the ‘per season’ income to Wembley was unlikely to be materially different from either Club.
MC asked DL how he feels about the new plastic bag charge in place
KL asked DL for a full and thorough breakdown of which supermarkets do and don't currently charge
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KL asked DL for a full and thorough breakdown of which supermarkets do and don't currently charge
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Kandi1977
Garth Crooks
Highly unlikely. Levy said a decision on where to play for our season away would have a deadline of March 17.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
MC and Kl also asked when are the '" hobknobs" going be be served with the teas and coffee again.
Gazza
Frederic Kanoute
Dl interjected and told parties that it was all kosher
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Daily updates!
There's nothing to report at the moment. Planning application awaiting approval, everything else dependent on that going through.
THST stressed that it is imperative that THFC continually restate the importance of THST. It must not be forgotten, not even for a second, that THST is made up of very, very important people and we must all recognise how important they are at all times.
MC raised the possibility of statues of THST members outside the gates at the new stadium
DMC suggested that MC go fudge himself.
milo
Jack L. Jones
