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Tottenham Hotspur Stadium - Licence To Stand

Probably 1 to 3m per event. We have to staff all the food outlets, and not everyone spends on food and drink. How much to hire the venue? It might be less than we think. If its a competitive market, maybe we 'only' make 500k on the venue hire and a 500k on F&B, once costs are taken into consideration.

Do we publish the average punter spend on F&B anywhere?

We get £6m for a home game. Another £1m from food and drink. According to the nyt/athletic.

 
Probably 1 to 3m per event. We have to staff all the food outlets, and not everyone spends on food and drink. How much to hire the venue? It might be less than we think. If its a competitive market, maybe we 'only' make 500k on the venue hire and a 500k on F&B, once costs are taken into consideration.

Do we publish the average punter spend on F&B anywhere?

Its alot to hire a venue of that stature. I will do some digging
 
If if if if if if we make a few million per event, and host ...er.... 20 events each year, that is ...er...a biiiig chunk of money to buy a player.
The Tweet above says it was a record for merch sales, surpassing NFL, and I guess we get a cut of merch sales. I assume these youngsters consume less food and drink than an NFL audience.
 
If if if if if if we make a few million per event, and host ...er.... 20 events each year, that is ...er...a biiiig chunk of money to buy a player.
The Tweet above says it was a record for merch sales, surpassing NFL, and I guess we get a cut of merch sales. I assume these youngsters consume less food and drink than an NFL audience.
Not knocking the guy because I have no idea who he is, but it seems crazy that it outsold NFL. Fella is doing something very right.
 
Probably 1 to 3m per event. We have to staff all the food outlets, and not everyone spends on food and drink. How much to hire the venue? It might be less than we think. If its a competitive market, maybe we 'only' make 500k on the venue hire and a 500k on F&B, once costs are taken into consideration.

Do we publish the average punter spend on F&B anywhere?

Even 1m is decent for a stadium that would otherwise be empty. Fair chance that with the other stuff going on at the stadium we're taking in an extra 50m a year.
 
Approved (as was expected)


The Club is delighted to announce that a resolution to grant planning permission to allow up to 30 major non-football events at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium per calendar year, subject to a S106 agreement, was passed by Haringey Council on Thursday.

The decision enables the Stadium to host up to 30 major non-football events per year, including concerts, rugby, boxing and NFL.

It follows an extensive consultation carried out by the Club with local residents and businesses. As part of the application, the Club made a series of commitments in response to resident and business feedback.

The Club will maintain its hugely popular community ticket scheme, ensuring local residents and community organisations continue to have the opportunity to experience events at the Stadium through the provision of complimentary tickets.

A 24hr priority ticketing window will also be introduced for concerts, ensuring local residents are at the front of the queue to see world-class acts perform on their doorstep.

Since opening in 2019, Tottenham Hotspur Stadium has been a catalyst in turning Tottenham into a thriving, new sport, leisure and entertainment destination in London.

In addition to being the world-famous home of Tottenham Hotspur, the Stadium is the official home of the NFL in the UK, having hosted eight regular season games to date as part of a long-term partnership through 2029-30. It has also staged European and domestic rugby finals, world heavyweight championship boxing and some of the world’s best-known performing artists, including global superstars Beyonce, Lady Gaga, P!NK and Travis Scott.

On a daily basis, the stadium brings visitors to the area through attractions including Stadium Tours, the Dare Skywalk and F1 DRIVE – London – the world’s first in-stadium karting experience, delivered in partnership with Formula 1.

The Club looks forward to welcoming visitors from across the world to a range of exciting events at the Stadium for many more years to come and thanks Haringey Council for its support. 2027 sees Haringey become the London Borough of Culture and the stadium has been named as a host venue for UEFA EURO 2028.

A recent study by EY found that, through increased events and activities at its stadium, the Club contributes around £900m of gross output to London's economy, generating an additional £478m of GVA in London.

The report also highlighted a contribution of:

* £344m GVA (£296m in Haringey specifically) to the tri-Borough area of Haringey, Enfield and Waltham Forest, in comparison to the £120m GVA per annum being generated in 2015 while the Club was still based at its old White Hart Lane stadium
* An estimation that the Club’s socio-economic impact will continue to grow in the years to come, with an estimated £585m GVA and 4,300 jobs expected to be supported during the 2026/27 season
* 3,700 FTE (full-time equivalent) jobs supported - 2,800 in Haringey specifically - inclusive of 1,800 directly employed by the Club, 1,600 supported through supply chains and a further 300 as a result of induced effects – in comparison to the total 1,800 jobs supported in 2015

The staging of major non-football events throughout the year also creates additional recurring sources of revenue for the Club to reinvest in its football activities - a key part of the Club’s financial model.
 
Good news

Wasnt there talk about boxing being particularly limited within that 30, because of the much worse behaviour of the crowds compared to football and gigs (esp public urination and illegal parking)? Did that get confirmed?
 
Approved (as was expected)


The Club is delighted to announce that a resolution to grant planning permission to allow up to 30 major non-football events at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium per calendar year, subject to a S106 agreement, was passed by Haringey Council on Thursday.

The decision enables the Stadium to host up to 30 major non-football events per year, including concerts, rugby, boxing and NFL.

It follows an extensive consultation carried out by the Club with local residents and businesses. As part of the application, the Club made a series of commitments in response to resident and business feedback.

The Club will maintain its hugely popular community ticket scheme, ensuring local residents and community organisations continue to have the opportunity to experience events at the Stadium through the provision of complimentary tickets.

A 24hr priority ticketing window will also be introduced for concerts, ensuring local residents are at the front of the queue to see world-class acts perform on their doorstep.

Since opening in 2019, Tottenham Hotspur Stadium has been a catalyst in turning Tottenham into a thriving, new sport, leisure and entertainment destination in London.

In addition to being the world-famous home of Tottenham Hotspur, the Stadium is the official home of the NFL in the UK, having hosted eight regular season games to date as part of a long-term partnership through 2029-30. It has also staged European and domestic rugby finals, world heavyweight championship boxing and some of the world’s best-known performing artists, including global superstars Beyonce, Lady Gaga, P!NK and Travis Scott.

On a daily basis, the stadium brings visitors to the area through attractions including Stadium Tours, the Dare Skywalk and F1 DRIVE – London – the world’s first in-stadium karting experience, delivered in partnership with Formula 1.

The Club looks forward to welcoming visitors from across the world to a range of exciting events at the Stadium for many more years to come and thanks Haringey Council for its support. 2027 sees Haringey become the London Borough of Culture and the stadium has been named as a host venue for UEFA EURO 2028.

A recent study by EY found that, through increased events and activities at its stadium, the Club contributes around £900m of gross output to London's economy, generating an additional £478m of GVA in London.

The report also highlighted a contribution of:

* £344m GVA (£296m in Haringey specifically) to the tri-Borough area of Haringey, Enfield and Waltham Forest, in comparison to the £120m GVA per annum being generated in 2015 while the Club was still based at its old White Hart Lane stadium
* An estimation that the Club’s socio-economic impact will continue to grow in the years to come, with an estimated £585m GVA and 4,300 jobs expected to be supported during the 2026/27 season
* 3,700 FTE (full-time equivalent) jobs supported - 2,800 in Haringey specifically - inclusive of 1,800 directly employed by the Club, 1,600 supported through supply chains and a further 300 as a result of induced effects – in comparison to the total 1,800 jobs supported in 2015

The staging of major non-football events throughout the year also creates additional recurring sources of revenue for the Club to reinvest in its football activities - a key part of the Club’s financial model.

Now put pressure on tfl to get a tube station at northumberland park. Lammy has been calling for it for years. Well you are in government now. Get it sorted.
 
Am I right in thinking the previous limit was 14? So an extra 16 probably bringing in somewhere between £16-32m extra a year. I’m assuming this is part of strategy as to why the flats have yet to have been built. Less people to lobby against The increase. Now build the flats. Also more events makes the hotel more profitable. And now with a potential 50 odd events a year the naming rights also could increase.
 
Now put pressure on tfl to get a tube station at northumberland park. Lammy has been calling for it for years. Well you are in government now. Get it sorted.

Should be such an easy win. The trains already run there, it just needs some pre-fab concrete platforms chucking down and a basic concourse.
 
Good news

Wasnt there talk about boxing being particularly limited within that 30, because of the much worse behaviour of the crowds compared to football and gigs (esp public urination and illegal parking)? Did that get confirmed?
Was that just the Fury fight(s), because of all the pikeys?
 
Or build it with future crossrail 2 in mind. Would massively boost the area.
Crossrail 2 will never happen now. The window for that is over. Self driving cars will steadily kill off the concept of hub transport over the coming decade or two
 
Crossrail 2 will never happen now. The window for that is over. Self driving cars will steadily kill off the concept of hub transport over the coming decade or two

The opposite seems to happening around the world. No cars. Walking streets and public transport.

This from today.

 
The opposite seems to happening around the world. No cars. Walking streets and public transport.

This from today.


Self driving cars cuts the amount of vehicle on the road by about 90%. It effectively ends private car ownership. You basically have a national fleet of driverless ubers, and book your ride from door-to-door (with vehicle size made to measure re passenger numbers). Virtually all parked cars disappear. It is public transport, just much more efficient than buses and trains (no wasted capacity, and minimal possible time taken for journeys).
 
Self driving cars cuts the amount of vehicle on the road by about 90%. It effectively ends private car ownership. You basically have a national fleet of driverless ubers, and book your ride from door-to-door (with vehicle size made to measure re passenger numbers). Virtually all parked cars disappear. It is public transport, just much more efficient than buses and trains (no wasted capacity, and minimal possible time taken for journeys).

Please show me a source for the 90% reduction of all vehicles? (Remember we are talking london).

Maybe taxis. But not hgv's, delivery drivers, white van men.
 
Actually gave it a thought.

I live in london. I want to go from point a to point b. I have choices.

- walk.
- cycle.
- public transport.
- taxi.
- drive.

How does the car driving itself effect that?
 
Please show me a source for the 90% reduction of all vehicles? (Remember we are talking london).

Maybe taxis. But not hgv's, delivery drivers, white van men.

It's that less than 10% of all cars are on the road at any one time. You take all the parked ones out of the equation.
 
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