Toby Alderweireld

[SPURSphenomenon]

Yes and if Toby agrees a new deal fine and dandy!
But do you think he will sign?

I think he is probably looking at situations like a potential Kane contract renewal etc to see how high we can go, then he has more realistic negotiating power, and a better chance at getting a better deal.

My personal irrelevant gut feeling is that he won't go, but lets see.

 

[StephenH]

Can't believe people are ready to let him leave, he's the second best defender in the league (behind Jan). If we want titles then we need to keep him.

No one wants him to go. But we are being naive as fans if we think Levy will pay him disproportionately to his fellows like Yan, as an example.

 

[r-u-s-x]

Yes and if Toby agrees a new deal fine and dandy!
But do you think he will sign?

No I think he will go fro £25M next summer, I hope he signs and he could. If I was him I probably wouldn't and I cant see us forcing the issue as we would want to keep him for the year and take the hit.

He will have his choice of teams and get a huge ay rise, injuries permitting.

 

[StephenH]

I think he is probably looking at situations like a potential Kane contract renewal etc to see how high we can go, then he has more realistic negotiating power, and a better chance at getting a better deal.

My personal irrelevant gut feeling is that he won't go, but lets see.

I would have agreed with your gut if it was not for this last bad injury. I think Levy will be reluctant to not sell while his stock is through the roof.
Toby has held off signing for a very long time. Sadly he will get his higher wage but not at Spurs. Paying £31.5m for the 21 yo Sanchez underlines this for me.

 

[Gazza]

No I think he will go fro £25M next summer, I hope he signs and he could. If I was him I probably wouldn't and I cant see us forcing the issue as we would want to keep him for the year and take the hit.

He will have his choice of teams and get a huge ay rise, injuries permitting.

Either way massive respect for his footballing skills, dedication, passion, and professionalism.

I hope that he can be happy whatever his decision.

Providing he does not go to anyone else in the premiership, good luck to him. Got massive respect for Toby

 

[StephenH]

No I think he will go fro £25M next summer, I hope he signs and he could. If I was him I probably wouldn't and I cant see us forcing the issue as we would want to keep him for the year and take the hit.

He will have his choice of teams and get a huge ay rise, injuries permitting.

Levy will NOT let that extension with buy out come into play. Of that I am positive.

 

[StephenH]

Either way massive respect for his footballing skills, dedication, passion, and professionalism.

I hope that he can be happy whatever his decision.

Providing he does not go to anyone else in the premiership, good luck to him. Got massive respect for Toby

Spot on! Will be sad to see him go but I would wish him well.

 

[r-u-s-x]

Levy will NOT let that extension with buy out come into play. Of that I am positive.

I personally think he will, we are on the verge of something special and he knows we will get at least £25M for him. If he and Poch think having him next year means more likely to win a cup / finish top 4 he will do it.

We will see.

 

[Gazza]

Injury record of late has not been that great. Perhaps Toby gets his massive move away to Real/PSG etc I think we would sell and buy or promote Foyth ... who I think will be class

 

[Gutter Boy]

Lets not forget that he had a bad time of things in Spain, so he'll be wary that thriving in a new environment wont be a given.

 

[StephenH]

Lets not forget that he had a bad time of things in Spain, so he'll be wary that thriving in a new environment wont be a given.

Thats why Toby has to make the call. But he will not get anywhere near what he would get the likes of PSG/Real.
The ball is at his feet! (prefer that to tennis idiom).

 

[Gazza]

As selfish as it may seem for the club, but I'm sure they can't carry Alder like City do for Kompany. Good for him lol

 

[alekaras]

They've been offering higher and higher wages as a percentage of their revenue in the anticipation that the money coming in will continue to increase. You have a club like us that has pretty stringently ran a wage structure which enables us to be sustainable. And you have someone like Wenger who has ran Arsenal on the idea that the money won't keep getting higher and at some point there will be a correction. If those clubs that have been offering higher and higher wages on the anticipation of continually increasing TV money (and if they have owners that have bought in at valuations that were high because of the anticipated profile and revenue of said TV money) then if that falls or stagnates, those clubs will have to correct themselves. It may not be massively noticeable immediately, and it is definitely a long term thing, but in the grand scheme of things long term predictable revenue is more important to clubs than one season meaning they can afford one more or one less player.

It will help ourselves and Arsenal if City and United ever have to correct. And I'd argue we are already seeing it with Chelsea - they seem to be doing what they can to build a long term strategy in place of their previous spend at all costs one. It may mean Chelsea take a short term hit but long term they would be able to weather any storms created by a reduction in either TV money or interest from Abramovic. Liverpool too are living pretty well within their means. It's not like United especially won't always have more commercial revenue than us (although we can close that gap), it's that if they have over extended themselves based on anticipated future earnings, they will need to correct slightly. The bubble bursting slightly will benefit the clubs that have decided to sacrifice short term success for long term stability when these macro shifts occur.

I have no doubt we would have maybe had a couple more CL campaigns over the last ten years if Levy had decided to spend more than his golden rules allowed at certain points, but equally I think we also would have had a couple more Chelsea finishing 10th disaster type seasons thrown into the mix, and I certainly don't think we would have the platform to succeed that we have now.

I don't disagree with what you are saying, it's just that I think that the big clubs will not be impacted by the "correction" to the extent that it will level the playing field in any significant way vis-a-vis us. To them it will be a blip. And Chelsea is building a long-term strategy because Abramovich is not willing to plunk down his own money as much anymore and understands that the club's valuation will improve greatly if he makes it self-sustaining, so he can sell it at a higher profit whenever he wishes to get out.

 

[StephenH]

As selfish as it may seem for the club, but I'm sure they can't carry Alder like City do for Kompany. Good for him lol

Paying him while he got his MBA. Nice of them.

 

[glasgowspur]

No one wants him to go. But we are being naive as fans if we think Levy will pay him disproportionately to his fellows like Yan, as an example.

And I'm sure Toby knows that, so if he does and isn't happy would already be making signs of wanting out.
He hasn't, in fact unless I'm dreaming did he not release something on social media a while back saying everything was going well and be patient?

 

[Glenda's Legs]

And I'm sure Toby knows that, so if he does and isn't happy would already be making signs of wanting out.
He hasn't, in fact unless I'm dreaming did he not release something on social media a while back saying everything was going well and be patient?

Yes, I'm sure I remember something along those lines. Plus Poch said similar in a recent press conference, and that Levy had it all in hand.
Yet today, the Mail are reporting that he is asking for a 5 yr deal, £110k pw, and talks are close to breaking down as we are so far apart. Evening Standard are saying we might consider offers in the summer, and that due to lack of clarity from the club about when Toby would be back in contention to play there is now some work to be done to re rebuild the relationship with him.
Hopefully it's just a case of agent-talk as a negotiation tactic and/or the tabloids picking it up and making click-bait out of it. I still feel confident a new contract will be agreed.

 

[StephenH]

And I'm sure Toby knows that, so if he does and isn't happy would already be making signs of wanting out.
He hasn't, in fact unless I'm dreaming did he not release something on social media a while back saying everything was going well and be patient?

You think?

Of cause he does. And when has reading anything on social media ment diddly?
Hi 'advisers' will be all over this telling what say and when. Glasgow you know that?
I like you am a big admirer of Toby what Spurs fan in their right mind isnt.

 

[Rorschach]

Yes, I'm sure I remember something along those lines. Plus Poch said similar in a recent press conference, and that Levy had it all in hand.
Yet today, the Mail are reporting that he is asking for a 5 yr deal, £110k pw, and talks are close to breaking down as we are so far apart. Evening Standard are saying we might consider offers in the summer, and that due to lack of clarity from the club about when Toby would be back in contention to play there is now some work to be done to re rebuild the relationship with him.
Hopefully it's just a case of agent-talk as a negotiation tactic and/or the tabloids picking it up and making click-bait out of it. I still feel confident a new contract will be agreed.

I don't believe the mail have an inside scoop on these numbers but for argument's sake lets say they are right. Pay it. Good deal in this market. Move on.

 

[markysimmo]

Yes, I'm sure I remember something along those lines. Plus Poch said similar in a recent press conference, and that Levy had it all in hand.
Yet today, the Mail are reporting that he is asking for a 5 yr deal, £110k pw, and talks are close to breaking down as we are so far apart. Evening Standard are saying we might consider offers in the summer, and that due to lack of clarity from the club about when Toby would be back in contention to play there is now some work to be done to re rebuild the relationship with him.
Hopefully it's just a case of agent-talk as a negotiation tactic and/or the tabloids picking it up and making click-bait out of it. I still feel confident a new contract will be agreed.

The Daily Fail, move along please they know about as much as I do haha

I can't believe we wouldn't pay him that especially not with the cash injection from the new stadium etc next year

 

[r-u-s-x]

I know its not about Toby but the Metro had Dembele signing for a Chinese club before the return fixture - lesson is Papers are flimflam merchants and the Mail is up there with the worst of them.