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Time wasting.

StephenH

StephenH

David Ginola
The game yesterday (Burnley at Wembley) was dreadful for deliberate time wasting.
They need to start issuing red cards to stamp it out imo.
 
The ref's should book players after a warning about doing it, it normally doesn't involve a booking until well into the second half

WBA at home last season was the worst I have ever seen
 
A couple of reds will sort it far quicker.
It’s cheating just like simulation aka ‘diving’:cool:
 
bjholmem said:
Or football could start using this new invention called a stop watch to time games. No time to waste then.
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Yes, it’s not the fault of the players for doing it it’s the enforcement of the rule. If the refs watch a 4th official kept the time and hooked it up to the scoreboard we can all see when timewasting is being added on. No idea where that 4 minutes came from yesterday Joe Hart spent that long taking one goal kick!
 
Seedy Ron said:
Would be interesting to see just how long into the evening/next day the game would go on for with a stopping clock.
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Iirc, when it has been measured the ball is in play about 55 minutes, so going to a 60 minute clock would get us more football. The danger is that once the game clock is stopped, the authories decide to use the time "productively". An injury, lets have a water break and show a few messages from our friends.

The referees should just enforce the rules. They should also introduce new rules on the time before a throw-in, free-kick or corner is taken. In particular, there is no reason throw-ins need take longer than six seconds (the supposed goalkeeper handling limit); no need for the player to send for towels while the Neanderthal centre-backs amble up the field.
 
It also seems kicking the ball away is no longer a yellow.

They should also give the ref a 6 second countdown for the keepers to clear from their hands. Would initially lead to a load freekicks in the area which would be exciting.
 
The system in hockey seems to work well. The clock stops for anything more than a standard stoppage. So time wouldn't be stopped for a free hit being taken halfway down the pitch, but it would be for an injury, goal, or short corner.

In football that system wouldn't prevent keepers taking ages over goal kicks (there should be warnings then yellow cards for that), but it'd neatly deal with all the players going down with cramp, etc.
 
"Time wasting" is not about taking time out of the game, it's all about breaking up the tempo of the game and winding up your opponents. I agree the timing of matches should not be done by refs but a time keeper working with the ref. The thing that annoys me is when the ref points to his watch as if to say I'm sorting this and the same old 3 to 4 minutes comes up despite what's happened.
 
Legohamster said:
All teams do, even spurs.

Score early and it’s not an issue.
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Of course. And it's a valid part of game management.
But then comes the subjectivity - at what point does time wasting become OK? In the last 10 minutes? 12 minutes? 20 minutes?
Or from the first 10 minutes like Burnley were doing yesterday?
It's frustrating to watch and no doubt frustrating to play against. It is up to the better team to find a way to overcome such tactics, but also up to the ref to judge what is reasonable.

Having said that, to your point about scoring early - had Moura's early chance gone in, we would have seen a very different game, and no doubt a very different scoreline.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
Of course. And it's a valid part of game management.
But then comes the subjectivity - at what point does time wasting become OK? In the last 10 minutes? 12 minutes? 20 minutes?
Or from the first 10 minutes like Burnley were doing yesterday?
It's frustrating to watch and no doubt frustrating to play against. It is up to the better team to find a way to overcome such tactics, but also up to the ref to judge what is reasonable.

Having said that, to your point about scoring early - had Moura's early chance gone in, we would have seen a very different game, and no doubt a very different scoreline.
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At any point it become ok if the team wants to do it.

Less so this season, but we can be easily frustrated and start shooting from distance which is party to do with the time wasting so it gets results against us.

So it’s affective.

From memory we used the multi ball system at WHL/Smaller ground so that last season was much less affective.
 
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