Challenge there is timing
- Training Ground was 14 years ago
- Stadium 7 years ago
It's really the last 2-3 years that have been the issue, so unless something changed in one/both of those facilities, they are not the root cause.
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The Pitch and serious injuries
- Thread starter Nexus1967
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Challenge there is timing
- Training Ground was 14 years ago
- Stadium 7 years ago
It's really the last 2-3 years that have been the issue, so unless something changed in one/both of those facilities, they are not the root cause.
johnola
Dean Richards
yeah that’s true.
Gazza Dazzla
Les Ferdinand
It really does seem that simple to me. On top of some of these injuries happening away from home, on tour, international duty.
indospurs
Gerry Armstrong
I think there's just a lot more footy being played, extra long extra time etc
And studs, if your shoe grips too well when you're slipping and turn the leg in the wrong way
I don't think it's any one thing, the pitch might be but not much, of a contributing factor imho - but it's all cumulative
Not enough rest in between
And studs, if your shoe grips too well when you're slipping and turn the leg in the wrong way
I don't think it's any one thing, the pitch might be but not much, of a contributing factor imho - but it's all cumulative
Not enough rest in between
Gazza Dazzla
Les Ferdinand
We’re not the only side playing all those games though, yet we are the only one to have half the squad out for most of the season for the last 3.
tommysvr
John Lacy
We're definitely at the extreme end, but the number of injuries across all clubs has been pretty ridiculous in the last few years.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Luka Modric
I don't know the exact breakdown of the type of injuries we have had in the last two seasons or how they compare with the average statics across the league. I assume the medical team would look at this in their investigations for a reason to what appears to be a high level of incidents.
Looking at the pictures of our training facility it seems we have plenty of resources to track players fitness and physicality.
This information should help to identify what the cause of the problem.
It may well be we've just been unlucky with the number of injuries or that their training regime or their early diagnosis of players condition and treatment are wrong.
Whatever it is a major review is essential we cannot have an other seasons where these levels on injury occur.
Looking at the pictures of our training facility it seems we have plenty of resources to track players fitness and physicality.
This information should help to identify what the cause of the problem.
It may well be we've just been unlucky with the number of injuries or that their training regime or their early diagnosis of players condition and treatment are wrong.
Whatever it is a major review is essential we cannot have an other seasons where these levels on injury occur.
Gazza Dazzla
Les Ferdinand
Definitely and injuries are part of the game when you have this ridiculous schedule, but the question is why are we suffering about ~25% more than the others over a sustained period? We need to find out why that is so we move back into the pack injury wise and are playing on a level playing field again (puns intended..).
MartyFunkhouser
Garth Crooks
ACLs are on the rise in world football, the PL trend is up. Yeh we lead the numbers but I suspect (suspect only because none of us know for sure) that the dynamics of the game have played more of a part in this than the surface.
Players in general in football, over the years have played on multiple changing surfaces during months/years of football, from home pitches to away, to indoor, artificial and hybrids, sometimes using 3 different surfaces in a week and managed ok.
The increase on explosive running, changing of directions, sheer athleticism of the game added with the supplements that mask fatigue is where I would be looking TBH. Going longer, faster with more energy is great, until your body breaks.
Players in general in football, over the years have played on multiple changing surfaces during months/years of football, from home pitches to away, to indoor, artificial and hybrids, sometimes using 3 different surfaces in a week and managed ok.
The increase on explosive running, changing of directions, sheer athleticism of the game added with the supplements that mask fatigue is where I would be looking TBH. Going longer, faster with more energy is great, until your body breaks.
indospurs
Gerry Armstrong
on top of all that - the medical team, my word
Ace Face
Sean Davis
Robbo
Tom Huddlestone
Our pitches might not be an issue at all, but like every possible other reason for our injury crisis, they too should be investigated.
We've suffered more ACL injuries than every other PL team combined over the past three years. The club needs to find out if this is just freakish bad luck, or if there are other factors at play that we could do something about.
We've suffered more ACL injuries than every other PL team combined over the past three years. The club needs to find out if this is just freakish bad luck, or if there are other factors at play that we could do something about.
Lemonade Money
Chris Jones
Just spoke to a mate who used to work at the training ground/stadium, and was talking about our number of injuries. He said that the stadium, and training ground, are constantly tested for firmness/bounce with a meter, and it has to be within PL regulations, and if it isn't, they use a spiking machine to get it back within the limits before it's used. It gets tested before every game. Apparently there is an indoor warm up area in the stadium that can mimic this exact firmness too, so they are not warming up on a different feeling surface.
He also said that it was more likely due to Ange was known for rushing players back, against our medical teams advice, and the head left because Ange kept ignoring him. I know it doesn't explain some of our injuries to players who've joined since Ange left, but thought I'd share FWIW.
He also said that it was more likely due to Ange was known for rushing players back, against our medical teams advice, and the head left because Ange kept ignoring him. I know it doesn't explain some of our injuries to players who've joined since Ange left, but thought I'd share FWIW.
Interesting, one of my theories is injuries creates it's own vicious circle
e.g. if as you said Ange was at fault, we get more injuries, more injuries puts more pressure/play/training time on remaining players which in turn cause more injuries, circle goes on. The past two seasons we have started season without full squad, and more players get injured before the current injured ones come back ..
The priority for club beyond continuing to review the medical issues is to start the season with almost a fully fit squad, unfortunately we will already start next season with a minimum of Xavi, Odobert, Deki out, with question marks on Kudus, and Maddison and Solanke still not quite proven match fit (hopefully pre-season helps)
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
The last bit is very much what i heard from former members of our medical team too. I'm not sure Geoff Scott 'left' though - he was removed by Munn and Ange for "not being risk positive enough"
Lemonade Money
Chris Jones
Well, same difference, they didn't agree on policy.
Gazza Dazzla
Les Ferdinand
Passing on in good faith?
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
To be fair, its been told in the Guardian as well: https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...r-spurs-head-of-medicine-geoff-scott-injuries
