The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

[SissokoWasGood (BoL)]

United are currently 6th in the table, what patience have they had to show this season, that's part of why I'm questioning the 12 months thing - he joined in November so we're talking 6-7 months not 12 of bad form. That said plenty of United fans been calling him out as a bad appointment all through last season and the summer.

Manchester United finished 15th and are not in Europe and you’re arguing nobody at that club showed patience?

 

[SissokoWasGood (BoL)]

Can I remove the off season and pre season from Ange’s time, and also last season up to November when we won at City before all the injuries hit? Because then it wasn’t really 18 months right? It was like 6 months which included a European trophy.

 

[billyiddo]

Can I remove the off season and pre season from Ange’s time, and also last season up to November when we won at City before all the injuries hit? Because then it wasn’t really 18 months right? It was like 6 months which included a European trophy.

I'm happy to go with 1.5 season or 3/4s of his time here if you prefer that to 18 months sure

 

[billyiddo]

Manchester United finished 15th and are not in Europe and you’re arguing nobody at that club showed patience?

Have I said that no one at United showed him patience?

I've questioned the 12 months line as it is being framed as though it was something beyond what Ange received, when in reality our poor form was much longer

 

[SissokoWasGood (BoL)]

Have I said that no one at United showed him patience?

I've questioned the 12 months line as it is being framed as though it was something beyond what Ange received, when in reality our poor form was much longer

By saying ‘what patience have they had to show this season’ you’re disregarding last season, when it’s plainly obvious that a club the size of Manchester United finishing 15th and losing their cup final route into Europe would have had to show patience to a manager delivering those kinds of results.

Ange’s Amorim level poor form was around the same amount of time - a crazy injury hit period from November until about April, and then a prioritisation of the Europa League, which we won. If we’re saying Amorim in reality only had a 6/7 month poor run, I’m going to argue Ange did too. Because his first ten games weren’t. And the second half of his first season wasn’t either - it was a 59 point run rate. Then August to November in his second season wasn’t too bad either. There were some bad results like Ipswich and Brighton, but big wins at United, at City, at home to Villa. There was no suggestion of Ange being under serious pressure until after the injuries that bit in November really started to show.

 

[billyiddo]

By saying ‘what patience have they had to show this season’ you’re disregarding last season, when it’s plainly obvious that a club the size of Manchester United finishing 15th and losing their cup final route into Europe would have had to show patience to a manager delivering those kinds of results.

Ange’s Amorim level poor form was around the same amount of time - a crazy injury hit period from November until about April, and then a prioritisation of the Europa League, which we won. If we’re saying Amorim in reality only had a 6/7 month poor run, I’m going to argue Ange did too. Because his first ten games weren’t. And the second half of his first season wasn’t either - it was a 59 point run rate. Then August to November in his second season wasn’t too bad either. There were some bad results like Ipswich and Brighton, but big wins at United, at City, at home to Villa. There was no suggestion of Ange being under serious pressure until after the injuries that bit in November really started to show.

Strange way of reading that mate - they've had a good/decent start to the season so have not had to show any patience beyond the decision at the end of last season to stick with him. That shouldn't really need explaining and I'm puzzled as to why you are arguing the point now tbh

 

[Mikey10]

By saying ‘what patience have they had to show this season’ you’re disregarding last season, when it’s plainly obvious that a club the size of Manchester United finishing 15th and losing their cup final route into Europe would have had to show patience to a manager delivering those kinds of results.

Ange’s Amorim level poor form was around the same amount of time - a crazy injury hit period from November until about April, and then a prioritisation of the Europa League, which we won. If we’re saying Amorim in reality only had a 6/7 month poor run, I’m going to argue Ange did too. Because his first ten games weren’t. And the second half of his first season wasn’t either - it was a 59 point run rate. Then August to November in his second season wasn’t too bad either. There were some bad results like Ipswich and Brighton, but big wins at United, at City, at home to Villa. There was no suggestion of Ange being under serious pressure until after the injuries that bit in November really started to show.

The injuries were a result of how he chose to play, as he said himself more than once. So I reckon we can remove that excuse from his ever changing list, as it was never going to change.