The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

[johnola]

I post in every second Ange thread.

 

[thfcsteff]

Oh the irony from the Poch apologist.

Fair play, however I try hard these days to avoid posting about him, especially in our new manager's thread.

 

[thfcsteff]

Once we're allowed bring Poch up in every thread after 6 years it's all good.

Again, I don't disagree.

 

[thfcsteff]

Every thread has people discussing off topic things. I’m forever skipping over pages due to that reason.

Again, fair point.

 

[glorygloryeze]

Here's my gripe list (As this seems the designed thread)

- Grateful that Ange delivered a trophy (see other point), but there is no question he had to go
- Club probably knew it sometime in Jan, the new video with CEO & Levy lets it slip, 30 managerial candidates considered, wasn't done in 6 or 17 days.
- Ange was backed, some of those players, the expensive ones, were his (Maddison, Solanke, Gray, Johnson, those 4 players alone are in the 200M range)

I think the bigger picture (and this is the one that will drive the anti current ownership mad and probably derail the thread), the EL win could be argued as redefining when measuring the impact/success of ENIC

Story before EL win
- 25 years of ownership, massive improvements off the pitch (Stadium, Training Ground, Brand), established club as top 6 (after previous decade or so of mid table mediocrity), with success limited (single cup win in 2008) and side having peaked in 2019
Story after EL win
- 25 years of ownership, massive improvements off the pitch (Stadium, Training Ground, Brand), established club as top 6 (after previous decade or so of mid table mediocrity), 2 Cups wins including one in current season, which is just the 3rd European trophy in our history), two 2nd places in PL, CL runner up, now back in CL next season for the 6th time (5 in last 9 years)

And yes the PL performance was a mess (hence the Ange comments above), but it's a bit interesting how one win can almost redefine the story (depending how you want to look at it)

 

[Robspur12]

It's not just Ange. So many of our fans are stuck in the past of not just what was, but all that could have been. Constantly recycling the same topics. We've never properly replaced any player we've sold and no manager has been sufficiently backed. Everything was just so much better then (insert season of choice).

Seriously! that's part and parcel of what binds fans together- history. Be a pretty boring site if we didn't talk about history as long as it doesn't derail other discussion. On that point I completely agree with @thfcsteff .

 

[Jordinho]

Seriously! that's part and parcel of what binds fans together- history. Be a pretty boring site if we didn't talk about history as long as it doesn't derail other discussion. On that point I completely agree with @thfcsteff .

It's just the nitpicking of details that have been done to death. I just prefer looking forward, but it feels like a large part of the fan base is stuck in the past.

 

[Robspur12]

It's just the nitpicking of details that have been done to death. I just prefer looking forward, but it feels like a large part of the fan base is stuck in the past.

Not stuck in the past but more trying to find context to what's happening now. I think that is perfectly understandable.

 

[billyiddo]

You can't discuss the new without there being talk of the old, at least in the immediacy