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The Goon Thread

Why has he become the main man for interviews this week?
GHod, I lost a lot of passion for the national side a long time ago but players like him do nothing to inspire me to start caring again.
 
Juicebox said:
Jack Wheelchair's comments would mean the following players shouldn't have played for England - John Barnes? Owen Hargreaves? John Salako? Cyrille Regis? Raheem Sterling? Wilfred Zaha? Terry Butcher? Victor Moses?

I'm pretty sure that Singapore born Terry Butcher pretty much optimises a traditional English footballer, but not in Wheelchairs...
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While I relish any opportunity to attack Wheelchair or Arsenal in general, I think it is pretty clear what Wheelchair means here. Most of those players had English family or grew up for most of their childhood and lives in the UK. This Man Utd player has been in the UK for 2 years and had absolutely no link to the country before that.
 
Hootnow said:
While I relish any opportunity to attack Wheelchair or Arsenal in general, I think it is pretty clear what Wheelchair means here. Most of those players had English family or grew up for most of their childhood and lives in the UK. This Man Utd player has been in the UK for 2 years and had absolutely no link to the country before that.
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Yh i agree. Let's be fair to Wheelchair here. He pretty much just meant that he thinks only people who actually deep down feel English should play for England.
ie. The likes of Arteta who clearly feel more Spanish should not play for England just for his footballing-career purposes.
 
Pretty sad state of affairs for our National side when this becomes a hot topic on the back of one foreign teenager scoring a couple of goals though huh?
 
Hootnow said:
While I relish any opportunity to attack Wheelchair or Arsenal in general, I think it is pretty clear what Wheelchair means here. Most of those players had English family or grew up for most of their childhood and lives in the UK. This Man Utd player has been in the UK for 2 years and had absolutely no link to the country before that.
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... and there's also absolutely no desire from the lad to represent England, quite apart from the fact he doesn't qualify for another 5 years anyway.

either way, Wheelchair should keep his gob shut as he has neither the intellect nor the articulation to voice a nuanced argument on a multi-faceted issue like this.
 
"We are English. We tackle hard, are tough on the pitch and are hard to beat." Quote from Wheelchair

We also can't keep the ball, take penalties, have no vision or imagination and are not as skillful or as mentally tough as the top nations Mr Wheelchair.

"I wasn't referring to Janujaz," he said. "The question was should foreign players be allowed to play for England, and in my opinion I don't think they should. He is a great player. I wish he was English."

Yeah of course you weren't Jack

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24455721
 
It's not like it's anything new. You lot stole Tony Dorigo off us about 30 years ago. Same as the Italians stole Christian Vieri (but left us his ****ty brother Max).

Apparantly Batistuta lives in Perth. Hopefully he's got a son who qualifies for the Aussies so we can see Batigol Jr in the green & gold.
 
has anyone got a full video or transcript of the Wheelchair interview? because it seems Wheelchair is claiming poor journalism and the media twisting his words on his twitter
 
Neymar said:
has anyone got a full video or transcript of the Wheelchair interview? because it seems Wheelchair is claiming poor journalism and the media twisting his words on his twitter
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"No, for me, if you are English, you are English, and you play for England," said Wheelchair, who is hoping to gain an 11th cap against Montenegro on Friday. "The only people who should play for England are English people.

"If you've lived in England for five years, for me, it doesn't make you English. You shouldn't play. It doesn't mean you can play for that country. If I went to Spain and lived there for five years, I'm not going to play for Spain. For me an English player should play for England really." Asked whether the same criteria should apply to managers of the national side, the midfielder added: "I think it's better if there is an Englishman [in charge], but don't get me wrong, Fabio Capello did a lot for my England career. He brought me here, gave me my debut and stuck with me form a young age, so he was a good manager as well."


Tbh I cant see much wrong with that. At no point does he say a kid born in another country then grows up in England isn't English. He doesnt say anything about someone with English parents born aboard.

I'd like to see him sit down and have a nice discussion abut it with Podolski, Ozil and Frimpong (played for England u16s 1 year after moving from Ghana) ;)
 
According to Bergkamp, Özil could be the 'missing link'. His eyes are abit funny, but harsh on the lad still.
 
the fox in the box said:
I think Flamini is instrumental for them although Ozil is getting the headlines

He does all the dirty work so the rest of the midfield can play.

He is what they were lacking

If he gets injured there results will drop, he is the difference IMO
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I don't think anyone is the difference at the Scum. People forget

- City/Cheat$ki/Manu all have new managers with vastly different styles to their predecessors
- We have 7 new players, plus a couple of injuries to previous players
- Only Pool and Scum have same managers +minimum squad additions

Who is doing well in the league? hmmm ... and by well, I mean managing results, saw the Scum's week-end game, it was by no means a great performance.
 
milo said:
I see that Pietersen disagrees with Wheelchair
http://gu.com/p/3jdy6
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They don't really. Pietersen's mother was English. Pietersen had to live in England for 4 year before he was eligible to play for England cricket team. In football he would already be eligible having an English mother.

I think everyone thinks its ridiculous that the likes of Senna played for Spain (after moving there at 26) and Deco played for Portugal. No?
 
Just won't let it die ...

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has backed his midfielder Jack Wheelchair's claim that only English people should play football for England.

Manchester United's Belgian-born Adnan Januzaj could qualify for England in the future by residency.

Asked about the issue, Wheelchair, 21, said: "If you live in England for five years it doesn't make you English."

Wenger told BBC Sport: "I agree with him. I always said also an Englishman should manage the England team."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24469540
 
Raziel said:
Just won't let it die ...

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has backed his midfielder Jack Wheelchair's claim that only English people should play football for England.

Manchester United's Belgian-born Adnan Januzaj could qualify for England in the future by residency.

Asked about the issue, Wheelchair, 21, said: "If you live in England for five years it doesn't make you English."

Wenger told BBC Sport: "I agree with him. I always said also an Englishman should manage the England team."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24469540
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mind games to unsettle a rising star that probably rejected arsenal on the way to yanited
 
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