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The Goon Thread

So do Arsenal need to be worried that Pellegrini is taking over at Emirates Marketing Project and might want to take Carzola with him??
 
Just a little bit of digging ..

Cazorla said: “What can I say about Manuel Pellegrini? He has been very important for my career.
“As a manager, he has shown he is at the top level in Madrid, Malaga and Villarreal. He made his mark.
“With Emirates Marketing Project, if he goes there, he’ll do spectacular things and they will get better as a team.
“He’ll adapt to the Premier League. He’ll change City’s style but the players he has got, they’ll adapt very well. I hope the best for him.
“If he goes to City, he deserves that and I’ll be happy for him.”
 
Ginola99 said:
Just a little bit of digging ..

Cazorla said: “What can I say about Manuel Pellegrini? He has been very important for my career.
“As a manager, he has shown he is at the top level in Madrid, Malaga and Villarreal. He made his mark.
“With Emirates Marketing Project, if he goes there, he’ll do spectacular things and they will get better as a team.
“He’ll adapt to the Premier League. He’ll change City’s style but the players he has got, they’ll adapt very well. I hope the best for him.
“If he goes to City, he deserves that and I’ll be happy for him.”
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A 'come and get me' plea if I've ever heard one!
 
Ginola99 said:
So do Arsenal need to be worried that Pellegrini is taking over at Emirates Marketing Project and might want to take Carzola with him??
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Don't see the point when they could get Isco who's a lot younger and probably better already.
 
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nah they'll give it all the talk of signing these established players but he'll carry on buying nobodies and paying them 60k pw
 
it's Wengers philosophy, apparently, to pay all first team squad members the same (more or less) which then prevents them from offering the likes of Fabregas and RvP more in an attempt to dampen their desire to leave.

if Bale was there now, with this Real interest - there'd be a much higher chance of him leaving than there is here because we're more willing to reward our star players with higher wages.
 
billyiddo said:
it's Wengers philosophy, apparently, to pay all first team squad members the same (more or less) which then prevents them from offering the likes of Fabregas and RvP more in an attempt to dampen their desire to leave.

if Bale was there now, with this Real interest - there'd be a much higher chance of him leaving than there is here because we're more willing to reward our star players with higher wages.
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I don't actually think that it is really wenger's philosophy to pay all first team members more or less the same amount.
What is probably going on is that players, young or old are not super attracted by the prospect of joining Arsenal (as opposed to sides that challenge for titles on a regular basis).
In addition, arsenal, like us, seem to have a wage cap. This combination makes it impossible to sign established pros. Therefore, wenger "overpays" (in wages) to bring in younger talent, and
beat off competition from rival clubs for their signature.

Thats why they have players like Bendtner, Djourou, Denilson on relatively large wages.

And fwiw, ive seen on many sources that Djourous wage is more in the 40k/w region. And even considering that he is on closer to 60k, its no way near as preposterous as some people make out.
At one stage he was an up and coming young centreback for a top 4 side with many games under his belt. For a centre back who is a squad member of a "top 4 side" in the premier league, his reported wages are relatively normal. For example, Nastasic, Johnny Exans and Gallas are earning in excess of 50k/w. At other clubs, Richard Dunne, Heitinga, John O'shea, Wes Brown, Onouaha, Bramble, Yanga-Mbiwa, Carlos Cuellar, Coates etc etc etc are all on 40k/w+.

The reality is, Djourou probably was "overpaid". But not by a ridiculous amount. His reported wages are just the going rate for a squad member of a premier league side.
 
As he prepares to finally offer Theo Walcott close to the £100,000 a week the England international has been seeking for his new contract, Wenger revealed it was he himself who insisted that the gap between the club’s highest-earners and lowest-paid players is narrower than at the likes of Emirates Marketing Project, Manchester United and Chelsea.

“We pay well. We pay very well,” Wenger said ahead of Sunday’s FA Cup third-round tie away to Swansea City. “I’ve spent all my life making sure people who work for us are paid well and I believe if you can do it, you do it.”

Wenger said that his principle was “to pay something that makes sense and is defendable in front of every single player” adding: “We make exceptions sometimes but they are not maybe so high. If you want to keep making profit you have to respect that.”

Walcott has been in a stand-off with Arsenal for months, having rejected a five-year deal worth £75,000 a week, an increase on his current £60,000-a-week earnings. The 23 year-old is a free agent in the summer and until recently it appeared he was more likely to leave than stay although Wenger is now optimistic, having also belatedly given Walcott the chance to play as a central striker, as he prepares to make the England international his club’s highest earner after Lukas Podolski.

Asked whether he set the wage structure at Arsenal, which has been criticised for having a too narrow band compared to other clubs, Wenger said: “Yes. I don’t know how it works at others. But it’s not only me, it’s in co-operation with the board. When we want to go 'far’ I ask for the authorisation of the board.”

However, it is understood that Wenger, once he is given a budget, sets the pay bands with the board deferring to his judgment. “We have no players on £200,000 a week and I think other clubs will come down to us with financial fair play,” he said. “We have a more socialist model.” Indeed Arsenal’s wage bill, at £143 million a year, according to the latest figures, is the fourth highest in the Premier League and yet the club has not won a trophy for seven years – although it has qualified for the Champions League every season.

One interesting comparison is that while United pay star names such as Wayne Rooney more than £200,000 a week, Danny Welbeck was earning £15,000 a week despite playing for the first-team until he signed an improved contract last August.

At Arsenal the top earner Podolski is reputed to earn just over £100,000 a week while several squad players are paid £60,000 a week. That explains how the average wage at United has been estimated at £64,000 a week while at Arsenal it is claimed to be £61,000 a week.

Wenger is one of the highest-paid managers, on £7 million a year, and he admitted that “it’s not enough” for Arsenal to simply qualify for the Champions League every year. It is time for a trophy to be won although, naturally, given it is only the third round of the competition he dismissed suggestions that the FA Cup represented Arsenal’s best chance this season.

“For people the Champions League is very important today,” Wenger said. “It makes a massive difference to everybody inside the club and to recruit the players and keep players. You need to be in the Champions League first.

“People always dispute that with me and I agree it’s not enough but it’s the basic requirement to keep the top, top level players. And after that you want to win trophies like the championship and the FA Cup and the Champions League.”

Winning trophies also, Wenger said, brings about a change in a team. “There is a change, of course . There is an aura around the team that is built through the history of the team and it makes them feel strong together and it’s quite an energy that builds up inside the team that you sense and it’s linked to the success that the team achieves.”

Wenger said he was acutely aware of the importance of winning silverware. “It would improve the confidence of the players and also the fact that you can be consistent — that improves the confidence,” he said. “It’s important to fight for the championship and as long as we don’t do that something will be questioned. That is where lies the strength of the club and the team.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/9782420/Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-defends-his-socialist-wage-plan.html
 
Actually worried about Arsenal next year. They say they are going to spend big in the summer. They are pretty much out of debt now as the stadium is paid off. They are going to be good next year, think they will spend it now they have got it.
 
GinolaGinolaGinola said:
Actually worried about Arsenal next year. They say they are going to spend big in the summer. They are pretty much out of debt now as the stadium is paid off. They are going to be good next year, think they will spend it now they have got it.
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I don't think so, I can't think of one example of a manager was very successful at a club for a numbers of years, had the results decline for a similar number of years, and then turn it around.

While Wenger is part of the reason they keep "just" holding on to top 4, I believe he is now part of the reason why they won't really challenge for anything major.

City/Cheat$ki simply have vastly superior squads, Manure has the history/belief plus RVP, the Scum are back fighting with us for top 4.
 
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