Summer 2018 transfer thread

[Bedfordspurs]

Yep..... the two clubs above us have strengthened more than we have. The two clubs immediately below us (and not far behind) have also strengthened more than we have.

We have a few players in our squad that aren't particularly hard to improve upon, but it seems Levy will not buy a replacement player before he has sold the existing player. Ironic that he has really promoted the To Dare Is to Do part of our brand.

And people still forget the issue of non homegrown players

We’re caught in a massive clusterfudge with that ruling

We can only shift players that people want and we need to shift some of the fringe foreign ones first

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Interesting that you feel everyone beneath us had to invest to play catch up. Did you not feel that we also needed to invest to play catch up on those in front of us?

I didn't expect miracles in terms of vast numbers of signings, but thought we would bring 2 new players in, with the club at least doing something in the centre of midfield to cover our injury situation along with the fact that Dembele probably only has six months to a year left with us.

No I didn’t... I think that playing at home will bring back some advantage

I also think city won’t have it as easy (but they earned it)

I also think pool are more known now too and don’t excel under pressure

People want centre miss but I think we will play with 1 true centre mid now with Alli and eriksen alongside them and players like moura, lamela and son behind Kane

We have Dier, Dembele, Wanyama, winks, and sissoko (debatable as a centre mid) for 1 or two positions

Plus of course two other youngsters who have excelled pre season

The club should not reactively buy for an injury IMO

 

[Bedfordspurs]

The other thing I feel we forget is we had 9 .... NINE players in the top 4 teams in the World Cup

That almost a whole team

No one had that many

That’s a massive amount for a side of our financial clout

 

[billyiddo]

And people still forget the issue of non homegrown players

We’re caught in a massive clusterfudge with that ruling

We can only shift players that people want and we need to shift some of the fringe foreign ones first

That begs the question why we haven't been able to move them on really rather than excuse our lack of movement tbf

We would have known what players were surplus to Pochs requirements a long time ago and i find it hard to believe that if it was of such importance (no ins until the outs are sorted) that we couldn't make it happen - big reason as to why i feel a DoF is necessary. I can just about understand the no incomings thing of it's a case of the players we want weren't attainable and we don't want to fill the squad with lesser targets (lesson learned from previous windows there maybe?) but we're stuck now with 2(?) players that can't be registered which i find hard to justify

 

[Rorschach]

That begs the question why we haven't been able to move them on really rather than excuse our lack of movement tbf

We would have known what players were surplus to Pochs requirements a long time ago and i find it hard to believe that if it was of such importance (no ins until the outs are sorted) that we couldn't make it happen - big reason as to why i feel a DoF is necessary. I can just about understand the no incomings thing of it's a case of the players we want weren't attainable and we don't want to fill the squad with lesser targets (lesson learned from previous windows there maybe?) but we're stuck now with 2(?) players that can't be registered which i find hard to justify

I wonder did Daniel Levy have his attention on the stadium a lot during this window. I imagine that played some part in it.

I'd say Janssen and GKN will be loaned or sold over the next month.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

That begs the question why we haven't been able to move them on really rather than excuse our lack of movement tbf

We would have known what players were surplus to Pochs requirements a long time ago and i find it hard to believe that if it was of such importance (no ins until the outs are sorted) that we couldn't make it happen - big reason as to why i feel a DoF is necessary. I can just about understand the no incomings thing of it's a case of the players we want weren't attainable and we don't want to fill the squad with lesser targets (lesson learned from previous windows there maybe?) but we're stuck now with 2(?) players that can't be registered which i find hard to justify

A DOF does help shift players as they network on that front

They also make it easier to buy IMO

I don’t rate Everton’s business but you cannot argue their getting players in and their DOFs have had a big role in that

And selling wise I genuinely think the players were happy to shift just aren’t as appealing ... maybe it’s because people now see them being efftice as part of a system rather than ability... or they have failed here and would struggle at other sides trying to emulate us

 

[billyiddo]

I wonder did Daniel Levy have his attention on the stadium a lot during this window. I imagine that played some part in it.

I'd say Janssen and GKN will be loaned or sold over the next month.

I think that probably is the case tbf but that just makes the lack of DoF all the more frustrating in my eyes - we would have known that the stadium will be eating up Levys time so we should planned to have someone who could assume some control of transfer matters.

Agree regarding GKN and Janssen

 

[AdamB]

That begs the question why we haven't been able to move them on really rather than excuse our lack of movement tbf

We would have known what players were surplus to Pochs requirements a long time ago and i find it hard to believe that if it was of such importance (no ins until the outs are sorted) that we couldn't make it happen - big reason as to why i feel a DoF is necessary. I can just about understand the no incomings thing of it's a case of the players we want weren't attainable and we don't want to fill the squad with lesser targets (lesson learned from previous windows there maybe?) but we're stuck now with 2(?) players that can't be registered which i find hard to justify

Not sure about the DoF thing but I agree about shifting players. If we make them available but there are no takers for whatever price we quote to people then you need to drop your price.

 

[PochettinoPochettinoPochettino]

fudge it lads and girls. We haven’t lost any of our players that got us third last season! We have kept Toby and we have Moura for a whole season!

I need TP for my bunghole!

 

[milo]

Not sure about the DoF thing but I agree about shifting players. If we make them available but there are no takers for whatever price we quote to people then you need to drop your price.

There have been suggestions that Dembele is holding out until the end of his contract, you'd imagine that Toby would be able to get a decent signing on fee next summer too. There comes a point where it makes more sense to get another year out of them rather than keep dropping the price.

 

[AdamB]

There have been suggestions that Dembele is holding out until the end of his contract, you'd imagine that Toby would be able to get a decent signing on fee next summer too. There comes a point where it makes more sense to get another year out of them rather than keep dropping the price.

I wasnt referring to them; agree about keeping them if we cant get a decent replacement and for the reason you mention. I meant players like Janssen, GKN, Llorente, Sissoko

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

That begs the question why we haven't been able to move them on really rather than excuse our lack of movement tbf

We would have known what players were surplus to Pochs requirements a long time ago and i find it hard to believe that if it was of such importance (no ins until the outs are sorted) that we couldn't make it happen - big reason as to why i feel a DoF is necessary. I can just about understand the no incomings thing of it's a case of the players we want weren't attainable and we don't want to fill the squad with lesser targets (lesson learned from previous windows there maybe?) but we're stuck now with 2(?) players that can't be registered which i find hard to justify

With you on that, and that is something I never thought I would say 10 years ago. Seems to me a director of football is just as important for sales as it is buys and also might negate the aura that now surrounds doing business with Levy.

 

[Kandi1977]

I wonder did Daniel Levy have his attention on the stadium a lot during this window. I imagine that played some part in it.

I'd say Janssen and GKN will be loaned or sold over the next month.

I do think the stadium has taken a lot of the focus, and has destracted Levy from dealing with transfers. Hopefully there is a plan for the winter window.

 

[nayimfromthehalfwayline]

I think thats a rather basic view. They guy runs a multi million (billion) pound company, 100s of employees etc, and has shown enough over his time here for us to believe he has enough foresight to think "Hey, Im really busy, I must make sure I can get the transfer window sorted as well-maybe I need to delegate or something..."

IMO, we had a very narrow field of targets, none were available at any sort of value, so we couldnt get them done. We chose to not move, rather than compromise.

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

I think thats a rather basic view. They guy runs a multi million (billion) pound company, 100s of employees etc, and has shown enough over his time here for us to believe he has enough foresight to think "Hey, Im really busy, I must make sure I can get the transfer window sorted as well-maybe I need to delegate or something..."

IMO, we had a very narrow field of targets, none were available at any sort of value, so we couldnt get them done. We chose to not move, rather than compromise.

Way too much sense!!

 

[the dza]

So, the squad as it stands -- going for 3 at the back so we make good use of Toby and Trippier:

--------------lloris
-----toby----sanchez----vert
trippier--------dier-------davies
-----------eriksen---dele
----------------son
---------------kane

---------------vorm
--------foyth---ccv---????
aurier---------wanyama--------rose
----------winks--------dembele
---------------moura
--------------lamela

Others (who have played first team league games before): Gazaniga, KWP, Sissoko

Extras who I don't think will play any part (but I could be wrong): Llorente, GKN, Janssen.

It's a very good, versatile squad. I'd expect these players to finish top 4 again and if we can get a good start to the season, who knows? City have a dip and get a points total of mere mortals, maybe we can give them a run for their money.

 

[Baleforce]

Did he? Thought he looked really poor

He looked absolutely terrible in the one semi competitive game we played where Girona gave us an absolute hiding.

I base that opinion on his Roma game cameo.

 

[Kandi1977]

I think the trust has summarized it pretty well:

THFC’s inability to make any improvements during the summer transfer window to a squad that is so close to achieving great things has dismayed many fans.

As a Supporters’ Trust, it is not our job to involve ourselves in on-field matters. But we have a responsibility to voice the concerns of our fans about the Club’s ambition and strategy on the pitch. And to ask for a full and believable explanation of how this transfer window has played out.

We do not believe in spending money or signing players for the sake of it. We recognise the achievement in keeping our squad together, for now at least, and in getting key players to agree new contracts. And we commend manager Mauricio Pochettino’s professionalism in his deadline day press conference. He has shown once again his ability to make the most of what he is given.

We have much to be proud of at Spurs. Nine of our players featured in the World Cup semi-finals. Over the last few years, a manager we revere has forged an exciting team that has challenged for top honours. And more fans than the Club cares to acknowledge recognise the challenges and achievements of running a sustainable business and building a top class stadium.

But fans come to watch the team. A team that will start the season with many of its key members still tired after the World Cup. And a squad that most rational observers would agree could benefit from more depth. It is not unreasonable to question if it was really the case that, alone among Europe’s top clubs, Spurs could find no player who would improve their squad while our rivals strengthened theirs.

Earlier this year, the Club objected to THST’s criticism of steep ticket price rises. It told us we could not expect players to be signed or wages to be competitive while we opposed those ticket price rises. Fans have paid the prices asked. And yet no signings have been made.

We know that gate receipts are no longer as fundamental as they once were for financing transfer fees or wages. But ticketing income at Spurs is now higher than it has ever been. We are curious as to what that money has been used for. We have been told the stadium build will not affect transfer spending.

We are told that we don’t have to sign players because we develop our youth. Yet four of our most promising prospects left the Club this summer. Of the current first team squad, just two regulars have come up through the ranks.

We love what has been developed, but for all the great football we’ve seen over the last few seasons, there are no trophies to show.

We have the highest paid Chairman in the Premier League. Our fans pay some of the highest prices in world football. Our support for our team and our admiration for what has been achieved remains strong. However, we believe fans are entitled to a full and credible explanation of what has happened this summer.

THST Board
9 August 2018

 

[Legohamster]

I think the trust has summarized it pretty well:

THFC’s inability to make any improvements during the summer transfer window to a squad that is so close to achieving great things has dismayed many fans.

As a Supporters’ Trust, it is not our job to involve ourselves in on-field matters. But we have a responsibility to voice the concerns of our fans about the Club’s ambition and strategy on the pitch. And to ask for a full and believable explanation of how this transfer window has played out.

We do not believe in spending money or signing players for the sake of it. We recognise the achievement in keeping our squad together, for now at least, and in getting key players to agree new contracts. And we commend manager Mauricio Pochettino’s professionalism in his deadline day press conference. He has shown once again his ability to make the most of what he is given.

We have much to be proud of at Spurs. Nine of our players featured in the World Cup semi-finals. Over the last few years, a manager we revere has forged an exciting team that has challenged for top honours. And more fans than the Club cares to acknowledge recognise the challenges and achievements of running a sustainable business and building a top class stadium.

But fans come to watch the team. A team that will start the season with many of its key members still tired after the World Cup. And a squad that most rational observers would agree could benefit from more depth. It is not unreasonable to question if it was really the case that, alone among Europe’s top clubs, Spurs could find no player who would improve their squad while our rivals strengthened theirs.

Earlier this year, the Club objected to THST’s criticism of steep ticket price rises. It told us we could not expect players to be signed or wages to be competitive while we opposed those ticket price rises. Fans have paid the prices asked. And yet no signings have been made.

We know that gate receipts are no longer as fundamental as they once were for financing transfer fees or wages. But ticketing income at Spurs is now higher than it has ever been. We are curious as to what that money has been used for. We have been told the stadium build will not affect transfer spending.

We are told that we don’t have to sign players because we develop our youth. Yet four of our most promising prospects left the Club this summer. Of the current first team squad, just two regulars have come up through the ranks.

We love what has been developed, but for all the great football we’ve seen over the last few seasons, there are no trophies to show.

We have the highest paid Chairman in the Premier League. Our fans pay some of the highest prices in world football. Our support for our team and our admiration for what has been achieved remains strong. However, we believe fans are entitled to a full and credible explanation of what has happened this summer.

THST Board
9 August 2018

Spot on.

 

[Rorschach]

I think the trust has summarized it pretty well:

THFC’s inability to make any improvements during the summer transfer window to a squad that is so close to achieving great things has dismayed many fans.

As a Supporters’ Trust, it is not our job to involve ourselves in on-field matters. But we have a responsibility to voice the concerns of our fans about the Club’s ambition and strategy on the pitch. And to ask for a full and believable explanation of how this transfer window has played out.

We do not believe in spending money or signing players for the sake of it. We recognise the achievement in keeping our squad together, for now at least, and in getting key players to agree new contracts. And we commend manager Mauricio Pochettino’s professionalism in his deadline day press conference. He has shown once again his ability to make the most of what he is given.

We have much to be proud of at Spurs. Nine of our players featured in the World Cup semi-finals. Over the last few years, a manager we revere has forged an exciting team that has challenged for top honours. And more fans than the Club cares to acknowledge recognise the challenges and achievements of running a sustainable business and building a top class stadium.

But fans come to watch the team. A team that will start the season with many of its key members still tired after the World Cup. And a squad that most rational observers would agree could benefit from more depth. It is not unreasonable to question if it was really the case that, alone among Europe’s top clubs, Spurs could find no player who would improve their squad while our rivals strengthened theirs.

Earlier this year, the Club objected to THST’s criticism of steep ticket price rises. It told us we could not expect players to be signed or wages to be competitive while we opposed those ticket price rises. Fans have paid the prices asked. And yet no signings have been made.

We know that gate receipts are no longer as fundamental as they once were for financing transfer fees or wages. But ticketing income at Spurs is now higher than it has ever been. We are curious as to what that money has been used for. We have been told the stadium build will not affect transfer spending.

We are told that we don’t have to sign players because we develop our youth. Yet four of our most promising prospects left the Club this summer. Of the current first team squad, just two regulars have come up through the ranks.

We love what has been developed, but for all the great football we’ve seen over the last few seasons, there are no trophies to show.

We have the highest paid Chairman in the Premier League. Our fans pay some of the highest prices in world football. Our support for our team and our admiration for what has been achieved remains strong. However, we believe fans are entitled to a full and credible explanation of what has happened this summer.

THST Board
9 August 2018

Actually a few good points in there.