Skinhead in a Suit
John Scales
"The Stones in Exile" documentary is excellent viewing. On Netflix.
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Stones tickets
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Seedy Ron
Jimmy Neighbour
Ticket touting is only illegal in football. There was a report on my local news the other day about the instant re-sale, at great markup, of tickets for the first England v Australia Test at Trent Bridge next year, they said that wasn't illegal for cricket either.
Not that I agree with the practice, but there it is.
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Scandalous that the biggest bands can charge such extorniate fees, like they need the money! Then again, nobody forces you to pay the money. I go to less gigs than I used to these days as I'd rather pay decent money and go to the theatre or a sporting event and have the choice of sitting down rather than paying £100+ to stand in an arena and dodge beer/tinkle that tossers feel the need to launch in the air.
Feel like an old git having read what I have just written.
Feel like an old git having read what I have just written.
Gordinho
Banned
I still regret to this day I decision I made nearly sixteen years ago (not life changing but could have been a great personal landmark in our married life), was in New York in about 1997, I'd taken my wife shopping in the New Year sales as her Chrimbo present, the concierge in our hotel had a pair of tickets to see the Rolling Stones at Madison Square Garden on the Saturday night and was only asking $35, wasn't the missus' cup o' tea and it was her weekend so we passed them up. 
Still, at least she let me visit Grand Central Station.
Still, at least she let me visit Grand Central Station. 
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
Gordy,
Don't worry. They haven't been great in concert for about 30 years (82 was perhaps the last time)...
General comment now...
...they serve their purpose, which is to be a live canvas off which people can bounce their memories or dreams off. Jagger is a great performer and remarkably fit, but he's now a caricature of himself, a cliche...Keef is half the man he was and Watts will always be Watts; calm, cool, collected and consistent. Wood? Well, hmmm, I cannot take him seriously in that sense.
I think snatches of their new album are excellent cover versions of old Rolling Stones classics...last time I saw them was 2005 and I was not impressed. Last time I saw Jagger live was 2009 and he was like Joel Grey in Cabaret. Only worth three hundred knicker if you want to say you've seen them or have memories to project off them. if you're going expecting to see The Rolling Stones as you've heard about them, well, not really...
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Don't worry. They haven't been great in concert for about 30 years (82 was perhaps the last time)...
General comment now...
...they serve their purpose, which is to be a live canvas off which people can bounce their memories or dreams off. Jagger is a great performer and remarkably fit, but he's now a caricature of himself, a cliche...Keef is half the man he was and Watts will always be Watts; calm, cool, collected and consistent. Wood? Well, hmmm, I cannot take him seriously in that sense.
I think snatches of their new album are excellent cover versions of old Rolling Stones classics...last time I saw them was 2005 and I was not impressed. Last time I saw Jagger live was 2009 and he was like Joel Grey in Cabaret. Only worth three hundred knicker if you want to say you've seen them or have memories to project off them. if you're going expecting to see The Rolling Stones as you've heard about them, well, not really...
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Out of interest would you go and see The Who or Pink Floyd (if PF were to reform) live, as they're from the same generation, sorry no pun intended
Klinsmania
Bobby Zamora
You're listing Morcheeba, Massive Attack and drum and bass on there and you have the gall to say the Stones are brick. Oh dear, people who live in glass houses and all that...
Leeds Spur
Banned
Nah. Bunch of silly old ****s. Drum and Bass forever.
Park Lane James
Andy Sinton
erm.... you have the choice to sit down at gigs as well.
jts1882
Dean Richards
One of the big stars (Madonna?) has commented that the only big money from music now is from touring because of downloading music.
Not sure about the correlation, though. If there was no downloaded pirated music, I suspect the concert tickets would still be high. Likewise if concerts were cheap, people would still download.
I thought so as well, driving round at 100mph skagged up with a pregnant wide, kid in the back etc. Stole his best mates birds as well, even if he was being a **** to her
Leeds Spur
Banned
Lol!! Artists are making more money than ever. Downloads are higher than record sales aren't they?
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
The biggest artists now make most of their money from live shows and merchandise. Album/download sales are not nearly what they were in the 90s, indeed, the common complaint you'll hear amidst the big artists is that iTunes rewrote the rules with regards to pricing and have effectively become the single biggest record label in the world (labels themselves do not have a quarter of the power they had). Further, they have changed the way people listen to music, thus often, people will only buy a few tracks from a new album. This opens up a far bigger discussion with regards to what mp3 has done to the 'art' of writing music/making an album (it's done a lot)... Of course they're not hurting, as the biggest bands can re-work their deals with labels or perhaps choose to simply have a distributor/their own labels, something which is happening with increasing frequency.
It's incredible how entertainment endures recession, but I will also say, the next time someone questions major tour ticket prices, I'd be happy to breakdown how much it costs for a major production (video screens, proper stage, proper sound, proper lights) to move from venue to venue per week. Put it this way; think of the petrol prices alone...
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
...without going on too much, it is one of the main reasons that solely stealing music from the internet will kill music in the long run. In fact, might be worth a seperate thread if anyone's interested in discussing? I am very passionate about it. I DO think there are situations where taking music from online is justified i.e. if you've tried to buy physical and online copies of a title and cannot find them anywhere, or if you already own the album but don't have a burner, but otherwise? Hmmm.
Leeds Spur
Banned
I think the Internet has revolutionised music in a good way. Arctic Monkies exhibit A
southstand1882
Mitchell Thomas
Leeds Spur
Banned
Yep. Still power with the artists rather than record companies is good IMO.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
I agree that in many ways it has been a great thing. The labels were crooks in their own right, and it's certainly far better now that they don't have the monopolies they had. Where a lot of labels blew it was not keeping up. Many bands did not have digital rights written into their contracts, thus when the internet/mp3 broke, it was a bit of a wild west scramble for a while as everyone tried to figure out how to deal with the income.
The only thing which isn't good about seeing labels de-stabilized is that many smaller bands now suffer because there is no-one to give them a leg up/seed money. The average person doesn't have the time or inclination to stray beyond a dozen or so web sites, thus it becomes a case of marketing to attract attention still...such a huge conversation really, there are so many angles and perspectives.