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Spurs & Covid

Legohamster said:
If the Villa game is off we have a big issue not of our making

the PL utterly bottled enforcing the rules they have in place and now we have the issue.
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The issue is that football has backed themselves into a corner with trying to play a full season of fixtures during a global pandemic. If Villa has an outbreak then the totally safe thing to do is to close the facility and cancel fixtures, if the outbreak is proven to be natural transition and not a protocol break you cant really punish teams. In wanting to put football on its going to have to roll with this even if it means delays, the chance that the season was going to run seamlessly went out the window from the first fixture.
 
Is there a clear threshold for when a game should be cancelled. Obviously the risk of transmission is the priority, but after that how many first team players need to have positive tests to warrant a postponement? Is it the team or Prem league who decide on cancellations?
Orient may feel hard done by that their cup game was forfeited yet the FA Cup and Prem games appear to be postponable.
 
markysimmo said:
They should cancel the Euro's now, also stop all International football until further notice
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Totally agree with this. It’s a little different from the week to week activity that is needed to keep the clubs afloat, the mixing is much wider than national bubble. I’d put European competition next in the list of consideration too.
 
markysimmo said:
They should cancel the Euro's now, also stop all International football until further notice
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That won't happen IMO - too much sponsorship etc involved. And the internationals are already crammed in (3 in an international window) so cant be crammed in more

There's also only 3 weeks between the end of the PL season and start of the Euros so tough to run the PL season a week longer

Therefore I think the only way they'll get through this is having weeks towards the end of the season where teams which reach the later stages of the CL or EL will have to play 3 games in a week (Sat, Mon, Wed/Thurs).

Teams who don't get to the later stages of CL or EL will be fine - so if we get knocked out before, say, the EL QFs then we'd play our Fulham game on the date when the EL semis would be
 
MKSpur said:
Is there a clear threshold for when a game should be cancelled. Obviously the risk of transmission is the priority, but after that how many first team players need to have positive tests to warrant a postponement? Is it the team or Prem league who decide on cancellations?
Orient may feel hard done by that their cup game was forfeited yet the FA Cup and Prem games appear to be postponable.
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The rule was supposed to be that if you have 14 players available then you have to play but as far as we can tell games have been postponed when clubs could have met that criteria. I mean City had 5/6 players missing last weekend and still played but I didn't hear Fulham had as many cases - it might be that by the time we played them it wasn't clear who had or didn't have it I guess but the league should release details so it's fair and transparent.
 
It was always going to be a clusterfudge season with covid-19 raging and UEFA/FIFA/PL only concerned about TV and sponsorship money - not about fans, player welfare or the severity of the pandemic.

How big of a clusterfudge it will be, we'll see over the winter.
 
P.D. said:
The rule was supposed to be that if you have 14 players available then you have to play but as far as we can tell games have been postponed when clubs could have met that criteria. I mean City had 5/6 players missing last weekend and still played but I didn't hear Fulham had as many cases - it might be that by the time we played them it wasn't clear who had or didn't have it I guess but the league should release details so it's fair and transparent.
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Which makes sense with injuries but not sure how that works for a contagious virus. I would think that if you have 5/6 players that have it in a working environment the sensible thing would be to contain it and not risk further spread rather than force those available to play. Yeh they are tested but tests are not full proof and TBH if I was the chairman of a club not sure I would wanna risk my staff and players against a team that has had a large known breach.
 
AdamB said:
That won't happen IMO - too much sponsorship etc involved
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Actually more reason so, from my involvement in bidding for Sport events the investment locally comes from countries including local hotels and tourism bodies contributing to the bid (usually called a bid book), hotels and local DMOs (cities) pay towards bidding for an event because they work out their ROI on heads on beds, incoming fans etc, that has a huge knock on to sponsors too, sponsors will be paying for point of sale exposure, Visa will be paying to have their logo all over cities etc, less exposure less reason to be involved so Sponsors who have also been hit financially will want out, I would have pulled my marketing funds out of the event already TBH. Would make it better for everyone from the sponsorship to the city for it not to happen
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I think it will give us a strong argument
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Agreed, and they'll have some, but not all, first-teamers back for the game against us. Their first positive tests were Mon this week so its likely that some of their players have had covid for a week perhaps more by now. Some of those will likely be showing negative by next Tues/Wed...but presumably they'd be without a few players though
 
AdamB said:
Agreed, and they'll have some, but not all, first-teamers back for the game against us. Their first positive tests were Mon this week so its likely that some of their players have had covid for a week perhaps more by now. Some of those will likely be showing negative by next Tues/Wed...but presumably they'd be without a few players though
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Well there is some reporting that Wednesday will be off as they can’t play under strength as it devalues the competition....
I’d argue that not playing by the rules that competition set early doors is the bigger issue. They cancelled games when teams had enough players and now that’s the precedent
I guess when out fixture pile up happens again we can get Covid and get the games cancelled...
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Well there is some reporting that Wednesday will be off as they can’t play under strength as it devalues the competition....
I’d argue that not playing by the rules that competition set early doors is the bigger issue. They cancelled games when teams had enough players and now that’s the precedent
I guess when out fixture pile up happens again we can get Covid and get the games cancelled...
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Other teams have played under strength teams when they've been missing 2-3 players. Agree that if Villa are missing say 15 players then it'll likely be off, but if its in the say 4-5 region then I think it'll go ahead
 
AdamB said:
Other teams have played under strength teams when they've been missing 2-3 players. Agree that if Villa are missing say 15 players then it'll likely be off, but if its in the say 4-5 region then I think it'll go ahead
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I don’t think they can play the cup with kids and then pull out of the league
They are both FA competitions for a start
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I don’t think they can play the cup with kids and then pull out of the league
They are both FA competitions for a start
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Their argument is that they were going to rest a lot of first-teamers for the cup game anyway, which I think they did last season too. Agree that their hand will be weakened though by going ahead with the Liverpool game and fielding in their U23s
 
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AdamB said:
Their argument is that they were going to rest a lot of first-teamers for the league game anyway, which I think they did last season too. Agree that their hand will be weakened though by going ahead with the Liverpool game and fielding in their U23s
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Rest them for the league or cup?
 
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