Spurs Brentford OMT

[Benny_Lad]

The Goons have been extremely lucky the last two games IMO...

Maybe but in 2 games against Chelsea and Man U they’ve managed 12 shots on target with Eddie Nketiah up top. We’ve got Kane, Son and Kulu and have managed 0 vs Brighton and Brentford.

They are happy to take a chance with a slightly sub standard back 4 and an extra player in midfield for a 4231 - that then means there’s chances at both ends. Pretty much the opposite of us.

 

[glasgowspur]

The Goons have been extremely lucky the last two games IMO...

Yeah, lucky its spurs that they are "fighting" for fourth place.

 

[harr1984]

Yeah, lucky its spurs that they are "fighting" for fourth place.

Haha true.

But as bad as this performance was, on face value a point away to Brentford is not a bad result. Brentford beat Arsenal and drew with Liverpool at home. Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project only beat them by the odd goal.

Put it this way whilst frustrating we didn’t do enough to get back into 4th in this fixture, if we don’t get top 4 there are a lot of games we should be questioning the performance and result etc before this one….

 

[StephenH]

I can’t see fourth spot now. Arsenal have to be Favourites playing much better than us

 

[harr1984]

I can’t see fourth spot now. Arsenal have to be Favourites playing much better than us

Nobody knows. People were saying this exact thing about them a month ago. Then they turned rubbish and we took advantage and everyone was saying we are favourites. Now it’s back to them again. It is literally pointless making any predictions….​

 

[StephenH]

Nobody knows. People were saying this exact thing about them a month ago. Then they turned rubbish and we took advantage and everyone was saying we are favourites. Now it’s back to them again. It is literally pointless making any predictions….​

Put my bet on for Arsenal to get fourth spot, I can do no more!

 

[stratnumberone]

While I agree that Arsenal HAS been lucky these last two games, it’s not like we have been unlucky. We’ve simply been awful. Absolutely abysmal, in fact. No urgency, no flair, no skill, no ability to play simple ten yard passes to an open team mate, no plan B - nothing. Brentford is a decent side and it’s quite right that we should look at several other results this season before this one. Nonetheless, if we think we can spend three hours failing to muster a single shot on target vs Brighton and Brentford (oh, and barely a shot off target, either) and then beat Liverpool and Arsenal then we truly are in the Twilight Zone. And we have to beat Leicester first…

There were only two positives yesterday: Chiswick Nando’s was pretty good. The away support was tremendous.

 

[glasgowspur]

While I agree that Arsenal HAS been lucky these last two games, it’s not like we have been unlucky. We’ve simply been awful. Absolutely abysmal, in fact. No urgency, no flair, no skill, no ability to play simple ten yard passes to an open team mate, no plan B - nothing. Brentford is a decent side and it’s quite right that we should look at several other results this season before this one. Nonetheless, if we think we can spend three hours failing to muster a single shot on target vs Brighton and Brentford (oh, and barely a shot off target, either) and then beat Liverpool and Arsenal then we truly are in the Twilight Zone. And we have to beat Leicester first…

There were only two positives yesterday: Chiswick Nando’s was pretty good. The away support was tremendous.

Totally agree, we've not had a shot on target in 180 plus mins against Brighton and brentford and yet it is all the rwb fault, fudging hilarious.
There's players in that squad quite happy for us to fall short because it absolves them responsibility.

 

[Yiddo]

Totally agree, we've not had a shot on target in 180 plus mins against Brighton and brentford and yet it is all the rwb fault, fudging hilarious.
There's players in that squad quite happy for us to fall short because it absolves them responsibility.

It’s amazing how all of the full back threads are on the first page, active with people blaming them for these performances and the Kane, Son, Kulu, Bentancur and Hojberg threads are sat on page 2 with no discussion about how fudging brick they all were Yesterday. It’s as if it’s the full backs fault that the attackers couldn’t keep hold of the ball and the midfielders kept passing it to the opposition.

 

[thfcsteff]

Maybe but in 2 games against Chelsea and Man U they’ve managed 12 shots on target with Eddie Nketiah up top. We’ve got Kane, Son and Kulu and have managed 0 vs Brighton and Brentford.

They are happy to take a chance with a slightly sub standard back 4 and an extra player in midfield for a 4231 - that then means there’s chances at both ends. Pretty much the opposite of us.

Conte won't do that. The best we can hope for is 3-5-2...

 

[thfcsteff]

While I agree that Arsenal HAS been lucky these last two games, it’s not like we have been unlucky. We’ve simply been awful. Absolutely abysmal, in fact. No urgency, no flair, no skill, no ability to play simple ten yard passes to an open team mate, no plan B - nothing. Brentford is a decent side and it’s quite right that we should look at several other results this season before this one. Nonetheless, if we think we can spend three hours failing to muster a single shot on target vs Brighton and Brentford (oh, and barely a shot off target, either) and then beat Liverpool and Arsenal then we truly are in the Twilight Zone. And we have to beat Leicester first…

There were only two positives yesterday: Chiswick Nando’s was pretty good. The away support was tremendous.

The chance we have is that Liverpool and the goons will play football and not build to stop us.

 

[Finney Is Back]

Totally agree, we've not had a shot on target in 180 plus mins against Brighton and brentford and yet it is all the rwb fault, fudging hilarious.
There's players in that squad quite happy for us to fall short because it absolves them responsibility.

It’s not all the RWBs fault…. The fault is probably mainly with the manager who is wedded to one specific system irrespective of the players available. It’s not Royale’s fault that he is ill equipped to play as a wing back. He was bought to play RB and is probably a fairly decent one.

IMO we’d be far better off playing a flat back 4, sacrificing either Sess or Davies and getting an extra attacking player in there (probably Moura for the chaos and space his direct dribbling can open up). Yes it might expose Dier’s defensive deficiencies but we’d look far more threatening going forward. If Conte must stick to the wing back system then I think Kulusevski needs to play at RWB and Bergwijn then comes in to play as the RWF.

 

[Finney Is Back]

It’s amazing how all of the full back threads are on the first page, active with people blaming them for these performances and the Kane, Son, Kulu, Bentancur and Hojberg threads are sat on page 2 with no discussion about how fudging brick they all were Yesterday. It’s as if it’s the full backs fault that the attackers couldn’t keep hold of the ball and the midfielders kept passing it to the opposition.

I thought PEH was very good yesterday and Bentancur decent as well. Those two did their jobs pretty much to the letter.

 

[glasgowspur]

It’s not all the RWBs fault…. The fault is probably mainly with the manager who is wedded to one specific system irrespective of the players available. It’s not Royale’s fault that he is ill equipped to play as a wing back. He was bought to play RB and is probably a fairly decent one.

IMO we’d be far better off playing a flat back 4, sacrificing either Sess or Davies and getting an extra attacking player in there (probably Moura for the chaos and space his direct dribbling can open up). Yes it might expose Dier’s defensive deficiencies but we’d look far more threatening going forward. If Conte must stick to the wing back system then I think Kulusevski needs to play at RWB and Bergwijn then comes in to play as the RWF.

I think that's fair, would be interesting to hear conte reasoning behind it.

 

[Yiddo]

I thought PEH was very good yesterday and Bentancur decent as well. Those two did their jobs pretty much to the letter.

 

[Bullet]

Eddie Nketiah up top.

They are happy to take a chance with a slightly sub standard back 4 and an extra player in midfield for a 4231 - that then means there’s chances at both ends.

This. We need to force the game into more chaos, more transitions and thus more chances and our elite forwards will finish more chances than Brighton's and Brentford's forwards.

We were SO boring it was like watching Nuno/ Mou/ Poch/ AVB yet again, just clueless and toothless.

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

The chance we have is that Liverpool and the goons will play football and not build to stop us.

Exactly my thinking, they will play their own game rather than looking to stop us, it could play in to our hands and leave some space that Brighton and Brentford excellently didn’t provide.

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

Well I hope you’re pleased with yourself? Clearly Conte stuck this OMT on the wall before they went out today.

I take full responsibility and I apologise without reservation.

 

[metalgear]

Indeed it is. Doherty isn't the best footballer in the world, but he has a football brain, and makes intelligent runs, and seems to be on the same wavelength as Kulusevski. He's also somewhat of a goal threat, which Royal certainly isn't.

It's like how everyone can tell a joke, but comedians have perfect timing.

Doherty has excellent timings for the runs, he reads the game really well.

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[stratnumberone]

The chance we have is that Liverpool and the goons will play football and not build to stop us.

Perhaps, but I think that Brentford played football yesterday and we didn’t exploit it. They certainly didn’t set up to stifle us in the same way that Brighton did. I thought they were quite proactive in sending men forward.