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Sick sick world what is wrong with people

SteveAWOL said:
No wonder MAGA fanatics are moving to Milei’s Argentina…

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More than 3,400 femicides in Argentina over past 11 years

Eleven years on from the first ‘Ni Una Menos’ march, 3,424 fatalities due to gender-based violence have been recorded in Argentina, according to tally kept by NGO.
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Make Argentina Great Again wasn't it??
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Nope, your question was based on the point "due to this" as in, people refusing the vaccine due to pork trace. I just answered the inaccuracy in your analogy as there are alternatives without pork trace.

I answered the question, It can't be helped you now moving the post on the point you were making, because the original point was so bad
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Someone can still refuse to take the alternative. Should they be allowed to remain in the UK?
 
robp135 said:
I never said such a thing.....Dude.
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robp135 said:
Not impossible at all. The sects are regionalized and even in the poorest countries in the world most people have some level of a digital footprint. You can have a greater degree of scrutiny of anyone applying for asylum from places where they is a higher density of religious extremism.

Nobody should be entering the country without us knowing a great deal of detail about who they are. If we cannot verify who they are they shouldn't be allowed in.

Another example would actually be vaccines. As I understand you believe that vaccines should be mandatory. Some vaccines that contain a pork-derived gelatin, which is considered haram. Should anyone refuses to be vaccinated, or vaccinate their children due to this, be allowed to come to the UK?
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Sure.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
I havent given an opinion on that, as I keep saying, I was just addressing your silly point which has not grounds based on facts
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I am asking your opinion. Luton has clarified he does not believe that should be mandated. Can you clarify?

Can you also clarify your views on cousin marriage and burqas?
 
robp135 said:
I am asking your opinion. Luton has clarified he does not believe that should be mandated. Can you clarify?

Can you also clarify your views on cousin marriage and burqas?
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My views on vaccines are the same as when I had the debate with you, its a choice, I dont respect the choice not to vaccinate your child given the dangers, so the same applies to this, that hasnt and doesnt change based on this convo, so didnt feel I needed to clarify that again

Why would you ask me about cousin marriage, seems a weird thing to ask someone?

As for Burkhas thats a much deeper societal question which I will answer as such. We live in a society where porn and onlyfans is normalised behaviour so have our own extremity of what we think modesty looks like and is acceptable, so I am not going to cast judgements on the other end of the scale when our society has got it completely wrong in the other direction. We treat women appaulingly in this county by other means and methods, I cant with good faith tell other communities we have it right and they have it wrong.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
My views on vaccines are the same as when I had the debate with you, its a choice, I dont respect the choice not to vaccinate your child given the dangers, so the same applies to this, that hasnt and doesnt change based on this convo, so didnt feel I needed to clarify that again

Why would you ask me about cousin marriage, seems a weird thing to ask someone?

As for Burkhas thats a much deeper societal question which I will answer as such. We live in a society where porn and onlyfans is normalised behaviour so have our own extremity of what we think modesty looks like and is acceptable, so I am not going to cast judgements on the other end of the scale when our society has got it completely wrong in the other direction. We treat women appaulingly in this county by other means and methods, I cant with good faith tell other communities we have it right and they have it wrong.
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This idiot interrogates people but won't answer simple questions.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
My views on vaccines are the same as when I had the debate with you, its a choice, I dont respect the choice not to vaccinate your child given the dangers, so the same applies to this, that hasnt and doesnt change based on this convo, so didnt feel I needed to clarify that again

Why would you ask me about cousin marriage, seems a weird thing to ask someone?

As for Burkhas thats a much deeper societal question which I will answer as such. We live in a society where porn and onlyfans is normalised behaviour so have our own extremity of what we think modesty looks like and is acceptable, so I am not going to cast judgements on the other end of the scale when our society has got it completely wrong in the other direction. We treat women appaulingly in this county by other means and methods, I cant with good faith tell other communities we have it right and they have it wrong.
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I appreciate the clarification of vaccine mandates confirming you disagree with the mandates in the state I live in.

Cousin marriage is common among some Muslim communities that have come to the UK. Upwards of 50%. This creates a huge drain on the NHS as children born to incestuous parents produces a vast number of heath and behavoural disorders in those children.

Drivers of Cousin Marriage among British Pakistanis - PMC

Why has the apparently high rate of cousin marriage among Bradford Pakistanis been sustained, 50 years since Pakistani migration to Britain began? A review of the anthropological literature on Pakistani migration and settlement, British Pakistani ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Don't really disagree with you about OF and pornography. Ties in to your comments about social media use in kids as well. Id happily ban them all to be honest.
 
robp135 said:
Cousin marriage is common among some Muslim communities that have come to the UK. Upwards of 50%. This creates a huge drain on the NHS as children born to incestuous parents produces a vast number of heath and behavoural disorders in those children.

Drivers of Cousin Marriage among British Pakistanis - PMC

Why has the apparently high rate of cousin marriage among Bradford Pakistanis been sustained, 50 years since Pakistani migration to Britain began? A review of the anthropological literature on Pakistani migration and settlement, British Pakistani ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Of course and and get it, but not sure anyone really needs to clarify what they think of it, I should think it goes without asking...

....its also not just restricted to one community to be fair, it absolutely happens in a few. But to be clear its not indicative in the wider communities, Muslim communities are not defined by first cousin marriage, I think its one of those unfair labels placed on a whole community in the same way other labels are placed
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Of course and and get it, but not sure anyone really needs to clarify what they think of it, I should think it goes without asking...

....its also not just restricted to one community to be fair, it absolutely happens in a few. But to be clear its not indicative in the wider communities, Muslim communities are not defined by first cousin marriage, I think its one of those unfair labels placed on a whole community in the same way other labels are placed
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I agree. My point is that you can have stricter immigration assessments of people trying to come to the UK from places where things like cousin marriage are more prominent. If your able to reduce the numbers of people the want things like cousin marriage or other beliefs that do not align with our own it will also result in less bigotry towards those communities.

My cousin was one of the many Spurs fans smashed up by Seville police in 2007 because they assume every British football fan is intent of causing trouble when most are there to just support their teams. 20 years on and we have been able to limit the travel of those who caused the most problems and the reputation of British football fans has at least improved to the point where we would not get hit with batons for Robbie Keane chants.
 
robp135 said:
Meaning nobody should refuse to be vaccinated on religious grounds if they are trying to remain in the United Kingdom?
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Now I am confused!!!!!
I thought you didn't believe in mandatory vaccinations for anyone?
I thought you believed in the right of anyone to refuse vaccination for themselves or children?
Genuinely, do I have this wrong?
 
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