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Sick sick world what is wrong with people

MartyFunkhouser said:
The vast majority of Muslims live in the UK in a peaceful and law abiding manner, I know it doesn't fit your narrative but every indicator possible shows it.
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Islam, same as Christianity and other religions has various denominations/sects. These are often regionalised. Some can be far more extreme in their views than others. Those extremes can often not match the overall culture of a country. A country in the UK’s case which is pretty much non religous at this point as well.

Mormons as an example, who I wouldnt even class as Christian but that’s an arguement for another time, to a higher degree beleive that it’s acceptable to have multiple wives and in many cases it is encouraged. Mormons also to a higher degree, beleive that the age in which someone can get married is far younger than the UK age of consent.

If there were was all of a sudden a mass influx of people wishing to emigrate to the UK from Utah where there is a higher percentage of Mormons, the immigration process should be stricter.

There are parts of Brazil with a large Jehovahs Witness population. I don’t know too much about that religion tbh but enough to know they have some very backward teachings. If people from that part of Brazil

Many Jewish people have Zionist views that are extreme. We should have a stricter immigration process for Israel.

Apply that to Islam. Some sects are pro cousin marriage. Others have women wear the full Burqa. Neither of these are in line with the overall values and culture that the UK. There are other views on homosexuality and women’s rights that are not in line with the overall values and culture of the UK. For parts of Africa, Asia and the Middle East where we you have higher numbers of people within those secs we should have stricter immigration laws.

It’s not about race. Most Mormons and Jews are white. If they hold extreme views we should not allow them in to the country.

We have not had as large an influx of migration or Mormons and Jews compared to Muslims. There are parts of England where you could not go to the supermarket without seeing a woman with a face covering. There are some parts of the country where the NHS is overwhelmed by the health impacts of cousin marriage.

It’s not the majority of Muslims you are right about that. But you can pinpoint the sects of Islam and the countries and regions where people are coming from that do not adhere to British values.
 
robp135 said:
It’s not the majority of Muslims you are right about that. But you can pinpoint the sects of Islam and the countries and regions where people are coming from that do not adhere to British values.
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Cool, we got to a mutual ground on that at least.

Ultimately as per the OP point, different cultures with massively different values and cultures to the British have been coming here and making up essential parts of what makes the UK a great country. To name a few, those communities I mentioned earlier are all key to our society now IMO.
 
robp135 said:
It’s not the majority of Muslims you are right about that. But you can pinpoint the sects of Islam and the countries and regions where people are coming from that do not adhere to British values.
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So robs policy. Is workout what sect someone is. How? By asking them or assuming. Both impossible to verify.

Next look at where they are from and assume they are like some of the people there. This is prejudiced.

Your idea is not practical.
 
LutonSpurs said:
So robs policy. Is workout what sect someone is. How? By asking them or assuming. Both impossible to verify.

Next look at where they are from and assume they are like some of the people there. This is prejudiced.

Your idea is not practical.
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Not impossible at all. The sects are regionalized and even in the poorest countries in the world most people have some level of a digital footprint. You can have a greater degree of scrutiny of anyone applying for asylum from places where they is a higher density of religious extremism.

Nobody should be entering the country without us knowing a great deal of detail about who they are. If we cannot verify who they are they shouldn't be allowed in.

Another example would actually be vaccines. As I understand you believe that vaccines should be mandatory. Some vaccines that contain a pork-derived gelatin, which is considered haram. Should anyone refuses to be vaccinated, or vaccinate their children due to this, be allowed to come to the UK?
 
robp135 said:
Another example would actually be vaccines. As I understand you believe that vaccines should be mandatory. Some vaccines that contain a pork-derived gelatin, which is considered haram. Should anyone refuses to be vaccinated, or vaccinate their children due to this, be allowed to come to the UK?
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Na they can just be offered the alternative which doesn't contain it.
 
robp135 said:
Not impossible at all. The sects are regionalized and even in the poorest countries in the world most people have some level of a digital footprint. You can have a greater degree of scrutiny of anyone applying for asylum from places where they is a higher density of religious extremism.

Nobody should be entering the country without us knowing a great deal of detail about who they are. If we cannot verify who they are they shouldn't be allowed in.

Another example would actually be vaccines. As I understand you believe that vaccines should be mandatory. Some vaccines that contain a pork-derived gelatin, which is considered haram. Should anyone refuses to be vaccinated, or vaccinate their children due to this, be allowed to come to the UK?
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I don't think vaccines should be mandatory. Why do you lie so much?
 
robp135 said:
Meaning nobody should refuse to be vaccinated on religious grounds if they are trying to remain in the United Kingdom?
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No, saying your analogy doesnt work because there are alternatives to the vaccines that dont contain pork trace....so not the home run of a point that you were trying to make fella
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
No, saying your analogy doesnt work because there are alternatives to the vaccines that dont contain pork trace....so not the home run of a point that you were trying to make fella
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It works went you avoid answering the question.

Should anyone that is trying to move to the UK that refuses to be vaccinated on religious grounds be allowed to remain in the country?
 
robp135 said:
It works went you avoid answering the question.

Should anyone that is trying to move to the UK that refuses to be vaccinated on religious grounds be allowed to remain in the country?
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Nope, your question was based on the point "due to this" as in, people refusing the vaccine due to pork trace. I just answered the inaccuracy in your analogy as there are alternatives without pork trace.

I answered the question, It can't be helped you now moving the post on the point you were making, because the original point was so bad
 
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