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Sick sick world what is wrong with people

Danishfurniturelover said:
Nope I will do me thanks hun.

The last 20 years of "political debate" have proven enough to people that they know their views no matter how strongly based in reality and backed up by data will just get shouted down.

You fellas continue with your echo chamber. Ironically I vote the same way as a lot of you.
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When have data backed views been shouted down?
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Nope I will do me thanks hun.

The last 20 years of "political debate" have proven enough to people that they know their views no matter how strongly based in reality and backed up by data will just get shouted down.

You fellas continue with your echo chamber. Ironically I vote the same way as a lot of you.
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I'm assuming this observation doesn't apply to America?
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Assume whatever you like. But you know full well your talking to an English guy from the continent of Europe.
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It's just a question? My point is people have spoken out in America and have got what they want. You appear to be wrangling with a self imposed censorship.
Danishfurniturelover said:
That WhatsApp group I mentioned earlier is lighting up now haha. People agreeing but can't be bothered to post in here..
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What was you saying about echo chambers? :)
 
Baleforce said:
Can someone fill me in as to what’s been going on in Sweden over the last five years?

No wrong answers.

Happy to hear all opinions.
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They have serious trouble with criminal networks and youth crime, which has been on the rise for years.

The last two-three years have seen a spike in gun related deaths, mostly gang related and many incidents involving kids - some of them under 14 years old.

Gangs are ecen recruiting kids as hitmen, even in other Nordic countries. There have been bomb attacks, even against a police station.

Some of hese gangs are connected to certain neighbourhoods in Swedens big cities, where a big majority of inhabitants are immigrants.

Critics blame Swedens liberal immigration policy, which have allowed "parallell societies", with varying degrees of internal justice, to establish themselves in these neighbourhoods.

I know for a fact that police are reluctant to enter some areas in Stockholm and Malmø without sufficient backing, because of the risk of being attacked.

Some networks have direct or indirect links to Eastern european criminal networks.

The activity of these networks is now also spreading into Norway and Denmark, which is a big concern in those courntries.

This is obviously a brief and simplified summary of a complex issue, but it's real and it's serious, and a big talking point here in Norway too. It will be a major issie in the coming general election.

You can get more insight from the articles below.

foreignpolicy.com

Hired Teen Hitmen Test Limits of Swedish Justice

Organized crime is turning to juveniles to dodge tougher sentences.
foreignpolicy.com foreignpolicy.com

www.politico.eu

Sweden’s spreading crime epidemic alarms its neighbors

Shootings by Swedish gang members in other countries ups pressure on government in Stockholm.
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu
 
Robbo said:
They have serious trouble with criminal networks and youth crime, which has been on the rise for years.

The last two-three years have seen a spike in gun related deaths, mostly gang related and many incidents involving kids - some of them under 14 years old.

Gangs are ecen recruiting kids as hitmen, even in other Nordic countries. There have been bomb attacks, even against a police station.

Some of hese gangs are connected to certain neighbourhoods in Swedens big cities, where a big majority of inhabitants are immigrants.

Critics blame Swedens liberal immigration policy, which have allowed "parallell societies", with varying degrees of internal justice, to establish themselves in these neighbourhoods.

I know for a fact that police are reluctant to enter some areas in Stockholm and Malmø without sufficient backing, because of the risk of being attacked.

Some networks have direct or indirect links to Eastern european criminal networks.

The activity of these networks is now also spreading into Norway and Denmark, which is a big concern in those courntries.

This is obviously a brief and simplified summary of a complex issue, but it's real and it's serious, and a big talking point here in Norway too. It will be a major issie in the coming general election.

You can get more insight from the articles below.

foreignpolicy.com

Hired Teen Hitmen Test Limits of Swedish Justice

Organized crime is turning to juveniles to dodge tougher sentences.
foreignpolicy.com foreignpolicy.com

www.politico.eu

Sweden’s spreading crime epidemic alarms its neighbors

Shootings by Swedish gang members in other countries ups pressure on government in Stockholm.
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu
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Racist

I'm reporting you.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Nope I will do me thanks hun.

The last 20 years of "political debate" have proven enough to people that they know their views no matter how strongly based in reality and backed up by data will just get shouted down.

You fellas continue with your echo chamber. Ironically I vote the same way as a lot of you.
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TBF you have been on here a number of years and have been true to your words and views but I don't think you have been shouted out of them. You have always offered great debate.

I hold my hands up to it on here having done it twice in my life recently, to two posters who were clearly been quacking like a duck, so I called them it, with some there is just no real debate beyond "if that was a white man"........rubbish.

Like I said earlier this place would be a far more level playing field of debate if people genuinely called out the concerns for all and called out all groups for carrying out crimes than trying to attribute them purely to race. The fact is this country has problems and exploitative problems from both immigrants and locals, thats the cold hard facts of it.

People wanna believe stuff so hard that the Eleanor Williams situations just does not even register with them, but for me its a stark example of where this country is in terms of desperation to want to attack people for their ethnicity without checking facts.

Gaps are being opened by that train of thought is being exploited by English, Albanian, Turkish and European criminal organisations who are doing all the things people are claiming are more likely to happen amongst others groups........thats where the dangers lie IMO

I think it would help if we policed the crimes and not the people.............

I have been on this forum for 13 years and I think I know 3 peoples real names and have bumped into 1 person in real life, many who I agree with, many I don't but its civil. With all due respect, not sure I wanna be on a whatsapp group with those I agree with or becomes jealous of not being on one with ones that I don't............
 
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Ultimately no one on on here has been shut down, I have seen more bigotry on here in the last 6 months than ever on this platform. People seemingly had the freedom to say what they wanted and did, people didn't run for the hills because they were shut down, it was because a real live big bad wolf Muslim (joke) came back to post and they IMO didn't wanna back up their previous comments and debate it out with him.............thats massively telling
 
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Grays_1890 said:
TBF you have been on here a number of years and have been true to your words and views but I don't think you have been shouted out of them. You have always offered great debate.

I hold my hands up to it on here having done it twice in my life recently, to two posters who were clearly been quacking like a duck, so I called them it, with some there is just no real debate beyond "if that was a white man"........rubbish.

Like I said earlier this place would be a far more level playing field of debate if people genuinely called out the concerns for all and called out all groups for carrying out crimes than trying to attribute them purely to race. The fact is this country has problems and exploitative problems from both immigrants and locals, thats the cold hard facts of it.

People wanna believe stuff so hard that the Eleanor Williams situations just does not even register with them, but for me its a stark example of where this country is in terms of desperation to want to attack people for their ethnicity without checking facts.

Gaps are being opened by that train of thought is being exploited by English, Albanian, Turkish and European criminal organisations who are doing all the things people are claiming are more likely to happen amongst others groups........thats where the dangers lie IMO

I think it would help if we policed the crimes and not the people.............

I have been on this forum for 13 years and I think I know 3 peoples real names and have bumped into 1 person in real life, many who I agree with, many I don't but its civil. With all due respect, not sure I wanna be on a whatsapp group with those I agree with or becomes jealous of not being on one with ones that I don't............
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Can agree with a lot of that to be honest, the truth is the world is full of arseholes of All colours and All religions.
 
LutonSpurs said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1887218899789164758
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See it was either one or the other. In this case and it will happen here as well. You get people from the host nation without the emotional maturity to engage in change through politics that take the law into their own hands because they are upset with the changes forced on their society by a liberal elite.

Same as Southport riots, violence and criminality are never the answer.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
See it was either one or the other. In this case and it will happen here as well. You get people from the host nation without the emotional maturity to engage in change through politics that take the law into their own hands because they are upset with the changes forced on their society by a liberal elite.

Same as Southport riots, violence and criminality are never the answer.
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Lots of which is bred by people consuming crap off social media with half truths or lies, like Southport, hence why those who travelled half the length of the country wrongly started attacking local asian shop keepers and the mosques, I will mention again the fact that loads of innocent people were beat up because of the fake story for Ellie Williams.

People just always seemingly want an excuse for their actions, like you say no one had the emotional maturity to take a step back to question anything or even put their best foot forward into the world
 
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Danishfurniturelover said:
See it was either one or the other. In this case and it will happen here as well. You get people from the host nation without the emotional maturity to engage in change through politics that take the law into their own hands because they are upset with the changes forced on their society by a liberal elite.

Same as Southport riots, violence and criminality are never the answer.
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You mean they commit acts of ideological terrorism due to some harm being inflicted on "their" people? Sounds like ISIS mindset to me
 
Israel: "Yeah, look guys. We might have self described facists in our cabinet who champion stoning gays, spitting on Christans... Who take great pride in the whole fascist label.

But at the end of the day it is antisemitic to call us facists.

We advocate killing arabs. But that's not facism.

I mean look. The President of the United States is offering to come in and control all the arabs for us.

It's completely antimsemtic to call us facist or racist.

Would the president of the free world and all his backers be supporting us if we were remotely fas....


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Oh erm.... ignore that... that's just Elon. He does that sometimes.
 
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