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Some very queer decision making by Trippier on that equalizer.
Thought Alderweireld was a bit dainty in his commitment to challenging Wood on the play.
Ugh
Some very queer decision making by Trippier on that equalizer.
Thought Alderweireld was a bit dainty in his commitment to challenging Wood on the play.
Please No.chelsea will gazump at medical
Spurs fans mock gay people in support of new signing Aurier
Saddens me that I am (a small) part of a club that does this.
mate fantastically written and said. I wish I could be more diplomatic like you.Spurs fans mock gay people in support of new signing Aurier
Saddens me that I am (a small) part of a club that does this.[/, post: 954626, member: 2197"]You would feel the same if you supported any other club. Fans are people and as people all of them are different...some set in their ways...others very open minded.
My view is that maybe your looking for a battle where there doesn't need to be one.
You will never rid the world of those you perceive to be bigots so its best not to worry or try to change things that are out of your control. That's not to say I find it acceptable to be homophobic or take the pish.
I just wish people could have more of a sense of humour about things and not take things so seriously.
I have personally said many things in my youth that I deeply regretted but I learnt from it. Serge Aurier is a young lad and deserves the chance for a fresh start and to make new impressions.
Now some never change their ways while others grow and evolve.
For me in this new age world there are far to many people that want to play policemen and by trying to censor everything are actually stopping the process of young people learning.
See people need to make mistakes in order to learn.
I can't remember anyone on here being blatantly homophobic...I think your more upset that we're not all condemning this signing and saying we don't want him because he's made errors of judgement in the past.
For me the lad can have a chance and it just so helps he's a darn fine RB that we desperately need!
mate fantastically written and said. I wish I could be more diplomatic like you.
Cheers dude.
I have my moments I guess.
Yes good post!
What is your avatar?
She looks ...... ehhhh.... nice?Just a pic of me and my ideal woman who I met on Halloween last year. Sadly it didn't work out the way I'd hoped.
I think what you are saying is that I should not complain about the homophobia on this board.
She looks ...... ehhhh.... nice?
I'd like to know your position on gay Scousers, who support Liverpool and were at Heysel? Now that would be worth reading. Ha, ha.
You would feel the same if you supported any other club. Fans are people and as people all of them are different...some set in their ways...others very open minded.
My view is that maybe your looking for a battle where there doesn't need to be one.
You will never rid the world of those you perceive to be bigots so its best not to worry or try to change things that are out of your control. That's not to say I find it acceptable to be homophobic or take the pish.
I just wish people could have more of a sense of humour about things and not take things so seriously.
I have personally said many things in my youth that I deeply regretted but I learnt from it. Serge Aurier is a young lad and deserves the chance for a fresh start and to make new impressions.
Now some never change their ways while others grow and evolve.
For me in this new age world there are far to many people that want to play policemen and by trying to censor everything are actually stopping the process of young people learning.
See people need to make mistakes in order to learn.
I can't remember anyone on here being blatantly homophobic...I think your more upset that we're not all condemning this signing and saying we don't want him because he's made errors of judgement in the past.
For me the lad can have a chance and it just so helps he's a darn fine RB that we desperately need!
Thank you for your thoughtful and personal note. I have taken a little time to respond.
Yes. My point is that I have realised that Spurs fans are as bad if not worse than other clubs. I had believed Spurs fans were different. I once had a long argument with Arsenal fans who claimed that the Spurs fanbase (in comparison with other fanbases) was out of touch, irrelevant, old school, bigoted and did not reflect the values of a great, diverse, modern city. I am now more inclined to agree with them.
I agree pointless arguing on here about whether Spurs should sign Aurier. It is more useful speaking with Donna Cullen about how signing Aurier flies in the face of all Spurs' equality and inclusion statements, petitioning Amber Rudd and encouraging Stonewall to make representations on this matter to the Home Office and the club.
As for the question as to whether their needs to an argument about homophobia on this board. I think there does.
i don''t think people need to make homophobic jokes.
i do not know what you said but I do know that you show genuine remorse for those things. My problem is that Aurier has not shown remorse. Instead he has tried to deny and minimise his actions (promoted ad nauseam by the Aurier apologists). As you say, some people do not want to change i see nothing from Aurier that says he is genuinely remorseful or wants to change.
I am not in full agreement with you on this. Nor do I want to play policeman. That is Milo's job. I do think that it is important to speak out when you see homophobia, racism or other forms of injustice. On the other hand, I should expect criticism (and ultimately to be banned) for rocking the boat, confronting long held beliefs, and shining a light in the face of some pretty mouldy views on here.
If you can not see the scarcely disguised homophobia running through this thread then you are in denial.
As you for your point about my ego, whether it is right or not, it does not change the strong argument against Spurs signing this bigot.
For me, he should not be signed unless he shows genuine remorse for his actions rather than minimise and deny them. i would rather lose a few more points, give a loyal servant and a young player a chance, than have an unrepentant bigot in a Spurs side.
Thanks for listening.