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Season Ticket Renewal Talk

These are the amount of people per phase apparently, someone from another board got sent the info from the ticket office:

Phase 1 - 19 March - 5028
Phase 2 - 21 March - 4300
Phase 3 - 26 March - 5964
Phase 4 - 28 March - 4097
Phase 5 - 5 April - 4259
Phase 6 - 12 April - 5579
Phase 7 - 16 April - 5117
Phase 8 - 18 April - 4667

I'm phase 1 but will be waiting for phase 3, going to be very interesting.
 
People are saying wat did you expect ...

I excepted to pay more but the new model has such a range of prices it’s bonkers

Doing some basic maths..,

Assume we have 55000 fans paying on average £70 a game (using the average of £1400 a season ticket divided by 19 game and rounding down)

That’s £73M for the league game just in gate receipts excluding any corporate money or other fan expenditure

Add in domestic cup and European games ...

So 3 CL group games at an a everage of £70 a seat brings in another £11.5M

Say we added £10 a head for food and drink brought in match days from the 55000 ... that’s £500k minimum more so including CL and league only another £11m of revenue (but the club would be targeting double that and more I believe with the new offer)

Domestic cup will be much cheaper as the club clearly don’t value them as much as the fans might... but it’s not unreasonable for the club to bring in £2m in revenue for those games

So doing the crude basic maths ...

For the normal fans the club would get roughly 100M if we have two cup home games in top of CL and league

Arsenal we’re doing that including their corporate

These are all hypothetical numbers and I may have under and over estimated...

But corporate could add £20m to these numbers and then you have sponsorships and naming rights

The ground could bring in £150M a season
 
Bedfordspurs said:
People are saying wat did you expect ...

I excepted to pay more but the new model has such a range of prices it’s bonkers

Doing some basic maths..,

Assume we have 55000 fans paying on average £70 a game (using the average of £1400 a season ticket divided by 19 game and rounding down)

That’s £73M for the league game just in gate receipts excluding any corporate money or other fan expenditure

Add in domestic cup and European games ...

So 3 CL group games at an a everage of £70 a seat brings in another £11.5M

Say we added £10 a head for food and drink brought in match days from the 55000 ... that’s £500k minimum more so including CL and league only another £11m of revenue (but the club would be targeting double that and more I believe with the new offer)

Domestic cup will be much cheaper as the club clearly don’t value them as much as the fans might... but it’s not unreasonable for the club to bring in £2m in revenue for those games

So doing the crude basic maths ...

For the normal fans the club would get roughly 100M if we have two cup home games in top of CL and league

Arsenal we’re doing that including their corporate

These are all hypothetical numbers and I may have under and over estimated...

But corporate could add £20m to these numbers and then you have sponsorships and naming rights

The ground could bring in £150M a season
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Your corporate numbers look too low. I think the stadium has 8,000 corporate seats. I would imagine the average cost of those (ignoring VAT) is £5,000.... so £40 million of revenue. You do probably have to remove some revenue from your general admission prediction however. Firstly the 3,000 away fans will be paying only £30 per ticket. You also have to factor in at least 1,000 free tickets for players families, officials and sponsors. Maybe calculate your GA numbers on 50,000 instead of 55,000 and then add on £2 million for away fans.
 
"We need a new ground so we can compete"

"These tickets are too expensive"

...


Club need to make sure this revenue sees us not only remain competitive but also push for the biggest prizes in the game - if we see a tangible return on our investment then it will be money well spent, if we lose Alderwiereld because of money and continue to be held back because of a lack of investment then fans won't be happy with paying the highest prices in world football
 
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Finney Is Back said:
Your corporate numbers look too low. I think the stadium has 8,000 corporate seats. I would imagine the average cost of those (ignoring VAT) is £5,000.... so £40 million of revenue. You do probably have to remove some revenue from your general admission prediction however. Firstly the 3,000 away fans will be paying only £30 per ticket. You also have to factor in at least 1,000 free tickets for players families, officials and sponsors. Maybe calculate your GA numbers on 50,000 instead of 55,000 and then add on £2 million for away fans.
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As I said... rough calculations..

So maybe 50000 @ £70 plus £10 food and drink (£88m for League and CL)

And another 3000 @ £30 plus £20 food and drink (as they wont bee anywhere else to go so £3.3m)

The club don’t give out many tickets to players and sponsors by the way... and I doubt that will change much let’s leave out the 1000 as you say

So crude numbers that’s £90m for league and Europe..,

Add in corporate at the £40m you said

Plus sonsorship inand around the ground and naming rights and were well over £150M without domestic cup games
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Only works if the club invests in players though ...
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See my edit above mate - club needs to back these prices up with investment on the pitch - including a contract for Alderweireld. If we continue to miss out through a lack of investment people will question why they're paying so much.
 
billyiddo said:
"We need a new ground so we can compete"

"These tickets are too expensive"

...


Club need to make sure this revenue sees us not only remain competitive but also push for the biggest prizes in the game - if we see a tangible return on our investment then it will be money well spent, if we lose Alderwiereld because of money and continue to be held back because of a lack of investment then fans won't be happy with paying the highest prices in world football
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I'll be gunning for that corner flag...
 
billyiddo said:
See my edit above mate - club needs to back these prices up with investment on the pitch - including a contract for Alderweireld. If we continue to miss out through a lack of investment people will question why they're paying so much.
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That’s the “challenge”

Charge for the best then you have to offer the best and that isn’t choice of cheese and ale... it’s having the players on the pitch

I’m confident we have the man in charge but I’m not sure we will release the money ...
 
Bedfordspurs said:
That’s the “challenge”

Charge for the best then you have to offer the best and that isn’t choice of cheese and ale... it’s having the players on the pitch

I’m confident we have the man in charge but I’m not sure we will release the money ...
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I hope they don't see the stadium as 'the product' - i expect higher prices for a better stadium of course but the team is what we are all there to see at the end of the day and if theyre charging us the highest prices in the world to watch our team then it needs to be matched from their end too.
 
billyiddo said:
I hope they don't see the stadium as 'the product' - i expect higher prices for a better stadium of course but the team is what we are all there to see at the end of the day and if theyre charging us the highest prices in the world to watch our team then it needs to be matched from their end too.
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Exactly

A world class product off the pitch has to be matched on the pitch

Player retention is paramount and genuine BIG investment in the team otherwise we will be like arsenal in that respect and fans will quickly turn
 
Bedfordspurs said:
As I said... rough calculations..

So maybe 50000 @ £70 plus £10 food and drink (£88m for League and CL)

And another 3000 @ £30 plus £20 food and drink (as they wont bee anywhere else to go so £3.3m)

The club don’t give out many tickets to players and sponsors by the way... and I doubt that will change much let’s leave out the 1000 as you say

So crude numbers that’s £90m for league and Europe..,

Add in corporate at the £40m you said

Plus sonsorship inand around the ground and naming rights and were well over £150M without domestic cup games
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Let's play a bit more with those numbers. I don't remember exactly, but I belive that we had about 43m in match day revenue at WHL. So we are at least doubling the match day income. Let's just say an extra 52m. If half of that extra income is used on wages, that would mean 20k extra pr week for each in a squad of 25 players.
 
Kandi1977 said:
Let's play a bit more with those numbers. I don't remember exactly, but I belive that we had about 43m in match day revenue at WHL. So we are at least doubling the match day income. Let's just say an extra 52m. If half of that extra income is used on wages, that would mean 20k extra pr week for each in a squad of 25 players.
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Sure the old ground brought in £40m ish as you say

We will be getting at least 3 tines that and maybe 4 in the new ground... but there are obviously greater costs and the debt to factor in

There would though be no reason not to significantly increase wages as the money would be there from gate receipts alone
 
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