Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Well the other striker isn't scoring either and he's playing average at best so Soldado or Kane are the best options at the moment.
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Roberto Soldado
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Well the other striker isn't scoring either and he's playing average at best so Soldado or Kane are the best options at the moment.
Well to be honest I wouldn't play "the other striker" either he's been broken down a long time.
Fact remains that he put in probably his best performance in a spurs shirt so please put his 'credentials' into context... He still was
He has given himself a lifeline at the club so I am happy. Perfect game for him as city attacked us and gave us space and. he actually ran and Battled for the ball.
Saudi Sportswashing Machine will sit deep - expect Ade to start as against that you need a presence in there,
Touch wood this fires Ade up as soldado has shown that he has some competiiton
He has given himself a lifeline at the club so I am happy. Perfect game for him as city attacked us and gave us space and. he actually ran and Battled for the ball.
Saudi Sportswashing Machine will sit deep - expect Ade to start as against that you need a presence in there,
Touch wood this fires Ade up as soldado has shown that he has some competiiton
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
I can only imagine the reaction on here if it had been Adebayor who missed that penalty, especially if it was as bad a penalty as Soldado's.
Personally I didn't think Soldado was that bad today, however I didn't think he was that good either. Hopefully we can sell him in January, but I doubt any team will pay anything like a reasonable fee for him.
Personally I didn't think Soldado was that bad today, however I didn't think he was that good either. Hopefully we can sell him in January, but I doubt any team will pay anything like a reasonable fee for him.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Absolutely agree. I am gutted because we spent so much money on him, but not the striker for the system we want to play. Hope I am wrong though.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Unfortunately they do just that!!
I'm stunned at the criticism of soldado yesterday, I really don't know what people were watching if they don't think he played well!
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
I would argue the opposite, we need someone a bit more creative in and around the box and someone who will actually stay in the centre and link up with the 3 behind and not stay at left wing like Ade does. There's no way Soldado should be dropped for next Sunday's game considering the displays Ade has given this season. Honestly, I don't know what games some fans are watching sometimes, nobody is defending Soldado's poor goal return for Spurs, but are people seriously saying the performance he gave at Emirates Marketing Project wasn't better than what Ade has shown and he doesn't deserve at least one more start?
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
If that was Ade they would say he "ran his nuts off".
No, they'd still be bemoaning the fact he didn't score and missed a penalty. After all that's what strikers are paid to do so if they don't they should expect criticism.
Well going by last season we don't seem to count penalties when evaluating our forwards so im not sure what difference it would have made.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
I'm still struggling to see in what way people thought Soldado played well? I mean yes he ran around a bit, but apparently that shouldn't have any bearing on whether the CF has done his bit or not. If that is a good Soldado performance then he must be an even worse player than I thought. We desperately need to replace him with a decent CF in Jan.
I was interested to hear Sherwood talking about 'the gulf in class' between City and Spurs yesterday in the comments after the game. From what I saw that was only apparent in the class of the centre forward that each team deployed.... swap Aguero and Soldado yesterday and we would've won that game. It really is time for Levy to go out and get Pochettino his man in January whatever it costs (within reason of course) so that the manager can be judged properly.
I was interested to hear Sherwood talking about 'the gulf in class' between City and Spurs yesterday in the comments after the game. From what I saw that was only apparent in the class of the centre forward that each team deployed.... swap Aguero and Soldado yesterday and we would've won that game. It really is time for Levy to go out and get Pochettino his man in January whatever it costs (within reason of course) so that the manager can be judged properly.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
He set up mason on a plate, set up erikson's goal, won a penalty out of nothing. That on its own is good and I've not mentioned his general link up play. Did you not think we looked far better going forward yesterday? Against one of the best teams in the league for that matter as well, I think soldado was integral to that.
I'm struggling to see why some people think he didn't play well!
I'm struggling to see why some people think he didn't play well!
Id have thought those so keen to point out Adebayors assist of the assisters and 'key contribution' stats would be able to do the same for Soldado - but no, now penalties are all important (now that he's actually missed one - funny that)
It couldn't possibly be that they've already concluded he's **** and nothing will ever change their minds?
As an example, from further up this page:
Someone has either not seen him play for Spurs before or conveniently chosen to ignore every positive contribution he has ever made.
I'm not at all surprised - the narrative was written a long time ago:
AVB = intellectual ∴ don't like AVB
Soldado = out of form ∴ must have been an AVB buy
Because of the above, Soldado can never be good as that would mean admitting that either they were wrong about the assumption AVB bought Soldado or that AVB had done something right.
Soldado probably won't ever score 20PL goals in a season. He's already done more in a match than a non-contract season Ade does in 10, but that won't ever change the narrative.
The thing is all of the above may be correct but that one single line is a far bigger point against Soldado (who I actually assume your trying to promote) than any other post. Workrate is fine, link play is fine but his goal return, for an alleged 30 goal a season scoring machine in Spain, has been woeful and that is what most people will judge him on, especially after spending nigh on 30m to get him.
Positive contribution or not (and Ade does make positive contributions at times as well) he simply isn't performing to the level everyone either expected or bigged him up to do. Ergo people will get on his back and find the negatives in the same way they find negatives about pretty much every other player in the squad.
I think that unless Soldado can do here what he did in Spain (and I'm not sure he can) then he probably needs replacing.
But, in the context of recent discussions here, he's a very, very distant second on that list of strikers who need replacing. More performances like yesterday and he might find himself third.
And he's clearly at the top of the list now of established strikers who should be starting in the PL.