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Roberto Soldado

Where's that from? It's the first I've seen it mentioned. Everything else has been saying £12m fee.

A loan really doesn’t help us in our quest to buy Berahino and a CM, as Soldado is our most valuable disposable asset left. At his age his price will drop further over the course of the season too

Not 100% sure where i saw it, could have been the paper talk section on skysports. I will find it and link if i can.
 
How about we use maths to work out how good a purchase a player is e.g.

Cost price minus sales price + total wage outlay = net spend on that player

Divide that by goals and assists, bingo, that is your Bentley Coefficient.

so Lloris is gonna be crap then?
 
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It's not especially Soldado's wages that are an issue for us though, it's having £12m of asset tied up that we need to fund purchases

Well, if they don't want to pay us £12m, we might take the view it's better to let him go there on loan, then if he starts tearing it up again, perhaps we can think about entertaining even bigger offers next year. Have to wait and see, I suppose, but there's probably a better chance of his value picking up in Spain than through another season of bit-parts here.
 
What i don't get is we supposedly paid 13m for Bobby and the rest are installments, which we assume are champions league football, international goals etc. What happens to the installments if we sell him somewhere else? do Valencia just brick out?
 
What i don't get is we supposedly paid 13m for Bobby and the rest are installments, which we assume are champions league football, international goals etc. What happens to the installments if we sell him somewhere else? do Valencia just **** out?

Well, these other instalments were contingent on his fulfilling certain criteria, whatever they may have been, for THFC, which he's not going to do if he's sold on, so yes.
 
Will be loan with guaranteed purchase at the end like City did with Negredo I expect. Spanish clubs are probably looking for more of that type of deal for financial reasons.
 
What i don't get is we supposedly paid 13m for Bobby and the rest are installments, which we assume are champions league football, international goals etc. What happens to the installments if we sell him somewhere else? do Valencia just **** out?


There's probably a clause whereby if we were to sell him within a certain timeframe we'd have to pay a % of the addons - for example if he were to have a blinder of a first season, scoring 30+ league goals and Real came in for him for 50m
 
Milo I agree with your post but it works both ways. I felt it was below the belt from you to bring up the miscarriage as a way to beat down those who criticized soldado. The criticisms were directed at his football performances not at him personally so there was no need for that imo and from a poster I normally expect better from. In the end there were some people who liked him and others who felt he was a waste of money. Both views are fine there does not have to be a consensus. The very fact that there is rarely consensus on anything makes this an interesting if frustrating place to discuss Spurss

I didn't bring it up to try and beat down anyone. I was just curious whether people had considered whether this could have contributed towards his problems settling into English football.

I think that some of the criticism of him has been over the top but I feel like that about most of the extreme criticism directed at anyone at the club. I don't know whether it is because message boards are partially anonymous but it does seem to result in some people amplifying their views.
 
He has gone? This surely calls for:

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@Superhudd :)

He only dances when proper qunts leave.. other than that he likes to think that its not nice to dance on ones grave when they have gone.
 
I didn't bring it up to try and beat down anyone. I was just curious whether people had considered whether this could have contributed towards his problems settling into English football.

I think that some of the criticism of him has been over the top but I feel like that about most of the extreme criticism directed at anyone at the club. I don't know whether it is because message boards are partially anonymous but it does seem to result in some people amplifying their views.

Bad team setup (honestly think Soldado was bought with expectation that Bale was here another season), poor management, struggling team +personal issues were all things that worked against Soldado being successful.

The criticism of most of our players goes way over the top, I really laugh at people who look at any current player and make the "he's the worst player/buy we have ever had" my follow up question would be "how long are you following Spurs? a couple of years?" because the 10 years pre BMJ were pretty fudging dire in terms of teams/quality
 
He only dances when proper qunts leave.. other than that he likes to think that its not nice to dance on ones grave when they have gone.

Dancing on his grave? Nah mate he is just moving back to Spain after "earning" roughly 6-10 million and managing to score only four league goals from open play in two years.

He is probably doing that dance himself.
 
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