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We are Tottenham
Kasey Keller
e-mail to a friend..
Hi John/
I have seen a lot of possible B & Bs in Birmingham. There are a lot in the City center..problem
would be too far away from you.
OK we'll change it for now and arrange a date when we meet.
I'm in sunny London now ..at my Mums. I don/t like London anymore!..I just doesn't feel the same//how it used to be. There aren't any English shops or anything. There used to be three Cinema's near here at the Bakers Arms Pub Leyton,.Off-course that's long gone along with the Cinema's . Everything is Halal this and Halal that. Some off the people are OK but the atmosphere's changed.
just a comment on that ad
To me that Sol Campbell ad is Racist against the English..oops not allowed to use that anymore.
Our country has gone!
admitted the English working class never had anything much accept their communities where they lived.
Politicians invited people from other countries here for their own reasons.
There was definitely not a democratic vote from the people!
No doubt i'll get slagged down on this as if i'm not allowed a right for an opinion !
and that is the scary thing.
Hi John/
I have seen a lot of possible B & Bs in Birmingham. There are a lot in the City center..problem
would be too far away from you.
OK we'll change it for now and arrange a date when we meet.
I'm in sunny London now ..at my Mums. I don/t like London anymore!..I just doesn't feel the same//how it used to be. There aren't any English shops or anything. There used to be three Cinema's near here at the Bakers Arms Pub Leyton,.Off-course that's long gone along with the Cinema's . Everything is Halal this and Halal that. Some off the people are OK but the atmosphere's changed.
just a comment on that ad
To me that Sol Campbell ad is Racist against the English..oops not allowed to use that anymore.
Our country has gone!
admitted the English working class never had anything much accept their communities where they lived.
Politicians invited people from other countries here for their own reasons.
There was definitely not a democratic vote from the people!
No doubt i'll get slagged down on this as if i'm not allowed a right for an opinion !
and that is the scary thing.
I suspect you can find as many (if not more) people that dislike the atmosphere of "English" pubs more than they do Halal stores. I do and I'm entirely against Halal in principle. I'm far more concerned about the cash for gold, pound shops and bookies that spring up next to Halal stores whenever an area goes to sh1te.
You're allowed to claim racism whenever you like. What you appear to be doing though, is wrongly conflating English with white. Sol Campbell is English. He's also a qunt because he trivialises a worthy and hard-fought cause by playing the race card when there's no card to play.
You should be careful not to do the same.
Politicians have made some terrible decisions regarding immigration - some clearly intentional. Immigration in itself wasn't the mistake though, multiculturalism was. By not inviting integration the Labour party have created a "them and us" attitude on both sides. Very useful for them because when you add it to the vast swathes of postal vote fraud then they only need to win over a handful of community leaders to secure the votes of every adult in that community.
You're allowed whatever opinion you want, it just happens that yours is wrong
You can have an opinion, it's just that your opinion is racist. Can't Black people be English then? Things have changed, I get it, change makes some people uncomfortable. I am from an immigrant family, and I love this country, especially London it's the greatest city in the world to me and I couldn't see myself living anywhere else, when I see opinions like yours they make me a tad sad. I think I will stop there.
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
He can have an opinion... he just can't expect that people are all going to agree with him. Don't like that card, it's the prime defence in cases, such as this. Complete misrepresentation, i.e. some sort of politically correct police state where you can't voice a view. You can voice it anytime, but don't confuse that with an expectation that people will allow it to go un-challenged.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
Those Angles and Saxons should go home to Schleswig-Holstein and Lower Saxony respectively and take their modern English language with them. fudging immigrants.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
The vilification of migrants in this country makes me angry to live here.
My wife has lived here appx 10 years, paid the same NI & tax as anyone else, contributed more to Britain than most Brit's i know and now we have to pay £660 to get a new permit so she can accept a new job, just because her indefinite leave to remain is in an expired passport.
I fudging hate the Tories and despise anyone that even acknowledges UKIP.
If you don't mind me asking, what are the details here? I thought ILR was just that - indefinite.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
No problem - I will happily share.
ILR is just that - indefinite.
So, her visa is in the passport she had when granted ILR ( 3 years after temporary leave to remain). To gain ILR you have to pass the life in the UK test, go to an interview and pay appx £500 (that was 7 yrs ago).
Her passport expired ( as passports do), so to enter the country now she presents her expired passport (Inc ILR) and valid passport - the two documents together creating proof of identity and status. This was also sufficient to prove working rights, along with NI card.
Appx a year after we completed ILR, biometric residents permits (BRP) were made part of the process. It is a credit card sized card with finger print, photo, height etc on. Which is fine - I can see why that's a good idea.
Since May last year, and with little/no communication, it became a legal requirement for employers to see an immigrants BRP to be able to employ them ( the aforementioned two passport combination is still valid for port entry though).
She just got a new job offer and unfortunately their HR actually know what they are doing, so insist on her having a BRP.
The express service, which still takes a few weeks and involves a fun trip to Croydon, is £660.
Her documents are valid to enter the country. Her status is unchanged.
We have already gone through the two stages of visa's - TLR and ILR ( note to all- migrants with temporary leave to remain have no resource to public funds - despite paying into them)
She has been unemployed for a total of 6 weeks in ten years.
So yeah, its just a flimflam tax on migrants.
Don't even get me stated on the new fees no EU migrants have to pay towards the NHS.
I'm genuinely considering voting UKIP and encouraging all migrants to leave - I'd give the NHS about two weeks before it collapsed and the rest of country 6 weeks. See how much the feckless Brit's miss the migrants then
Sounds like a c0ckup all round really.
So if they'd just contacted everyone with ILR (and I assume they keep track of contact details) and told them in advance you could have done it for around £85 from what I read? This is why I have so little faith in governments and the civil service - how difficult can it be to send out a warning and/or reminder to people?
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
The non express service is £260 and takes appx 6 months - but imagine that time frame if you suddenly have all migrants having to do it. It would take years.
The position us to stop fraudulent documents being used that are in out of date passport's - which is fine. But two passports together should create a bone fide proof of identity and status. I should add, her county of nationality is signed up to the international biometric passport stabdards, which in itself should create a solid piece of evidence.
But none of the above is the point - the point is its just a BS charge for working people that have already paid for two visa's. Ergo, it has jack all to do with controlling migrants taking from the state pot, just taking advantage of the political climate of a pejorative nature towards migrants in the UK.
There is also a really nice .gov about new visa applicants having to pay towards the NHS (£200 for three years on top on the NI they pay), that states it will stop illegal immigrants abusing the system - you know, all those illegal migrants that apply for visa's.
The position us to stop fraudulent documents being used that are in out of date passport's - which is fine. But two passports together should create a bone fide proof of identity and status. I should add, her county of nationality is signed up to the international biometric passport stabdards, which in itself should create a solid piece of evidence.
But none of the above is the point - the point is its just a BS charge for working people that have already paid for two visa's. Ergo, it has jack all to do with controlling migrants taking from the state pot, just taking advantage of the political climate of a pejorative nature towards migrants in the UK.
There is also a really nice .gov about new visa applicants having to pay towards the NHS (£200 for three years on top on the NI they pay), that states it will stop illegal immigrants abusing the system - you know, all those illegal migrants that apply for visa's.
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monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Re communication - even some posters and telling the press would have worked
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
That's fine, and makes perfect sense. I have no issue with that.
The point is, my wife's two passports and visa are no longer considered valid to prove her immigration status to an employer ( despite her status being unaffected and those being valid for port entry)
The point is, my wife's two passports and visa are no longer considered valid to prove her immigration status to an employer ( despite her status being unaffected and those being valid for port entry)
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Is the policy not " valid form of govt issued ID"? Which would include driving licence. Although what happens if you have neither is a good question