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scaramanga said:
The UK likes days where there's not much sun and not much of anything to make the spinny things spin - we have quite a lot of them.

BTW, you'd need at least 10,000 of those large arrays to cover the UK for a week. And a week's backup with no alternative is pretty low.
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I guess they never thought of any of that.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Get the SMRs rolling as back-up asap...fudge the rest of as quickly as possible.
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SMRs will only ever be niche, is the consensus. Too expensive. The markets have already chosen batteries as they are cheap and getting cheaper. Grid storage installations have increased tenfold since 2021 up to last year. This year it is predicted to double again to something like 200GW new. I think about 2GW in the UK last year alone (will have to google that). Add in cheap sodium batteries and a few other ones (rust!) that are now entering the market and this race is over.

One small silver lining of the Iran war is the dawning realisation of how fragile a position we find ourselves in because of our fossil fuel dependency. It was pretty fudging obvious but it still seemed to be a lightbulb moment for some world leaders.
 
scaramanga said:
The UK likes days where there's not much sun and not much of anything to make the spinny things spin - we have quite a lot of them.

BTW, you'd need at least 10,000 of those large arrays to cover the UK for a week. And a week's backup with no alternative is pretty low.
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We have 12000 already Scara. The challenge is in storage and it's one we should be embracing as a collective issue.
 
LutonSpurs said:
We have 12000 already Scara. The challenge is in storage and it's one we should be embracing as a collective issue.
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Storage is what we're already discussing.

We would need 10,000 of these large scale batteries to give us a week's cover and a week's cover is nowhere near enough. Assuming they can scale at the current prices and be built in the UK at current prices, it would cost something like our entire GDP to do so.
 
LutonSpurs said:
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Will get very little coverage. These victims are also victims. It's tragic they will get less attention due to political machinations.
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Sad but true… strange that Tommy and Elon ain’t up in arms about either of these cases 🤔

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scaramanga said:
Storage is what we're already discussing.

We would need 10,000 of these large scale batteries to give us a week's cover and a week's cover is nowhere near enough. Assuming they can scale at the current prices and be built in the UK at current prices, it would cost something like our entire GDP to do so.
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Yeah that is not how it works. The batteries are used to swap in for peaker plants. Not as backup for the entire grid for weeks. Also, you'll be buying them from China like everyone else I would think.
 
scaramanga said:
Storage is what we're already discussing.

We would need 10,000 of these large scale batteries to give us a week's cover and a week's cover is nowhere near enough. Assuming they can scale at the current prices and be built in the UK at current prices, it would cost something like our entire GDP to do so.
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Storage isn't as simple as that. Their are broader solutions. And I assume you know this already.
 
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