Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[Seedy Ron]

Nigel Farage has already said his party "will throw absolutely everything at it".

Hope he's run that past Harborne, sounds expensive.

 

[P.D.]

If Green didn't field a candidate they would be doing the right thing for the country if you really want to stop the Reform surge. And it's is a real surge now. Tangible.

The right thing is to give people a choice of views and let the best person win. If he's as good as people think then he should be able to beat all parties.

 

[Lost Mango]

Which was when ?
Reform cleaned up last week

32% voter turnout last week, 59% in last general election.

Not sure we can read that much into what happened last week.

Hopefully Reform's overall vote share will continue to decline as it did in the last 12 months.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

So stating the fact that Reform won all 11 seats last week is a salivating hyena act
fudge me

More reference to the posts before

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Burnham is playing a dangerous game.

Would be hilarious if he didn't win.

What's his plan anyway, get elected and bide his time for a few months then launch a leadership bid - he can't radically change much if it wasn't in the manifesto and the calls for a general election would be huge. I mean he wasn't even an MP at the election so can't really just come in with a radically different vision that has no mandate.

You would bet on reform pulling an upset. And then the clamour for an immediate GE will be loud. Interesting times ahead

I get the feeling Streetings move yesterday tactfully got the ball moving.

I think he knew any sniff of an impending leadership contest would peak Burnhams interest.

After the refusal to let Burnham stand at the by-election in Feb, Streeting knew the goalposts had moved....
Because For Starmer the walls are closing in...so he needs to allow an dissenter an open pathway to challenge him, if he believes he wants to shake them off and put them in their place (even if that outcome appears unlikely to most of us).

Streeting then knows that the by-election is anything but a shoe-in for Burnham (snidely cheerleading him for it today)...Burnham loses that he's dead politically.

Burnham would have been better keeping his powder dry...a better opportunity would arrive. There is time.

For the fight they are in, Streeting is too far to the right for labour. But he will get a lot of support OUTSIDE of the party because of this.

It'll be a box office by-election. The turnout was just 32% last week, so many sat at home...really hard to judge in this climate who those extra votes side with.

 

[LutonSpurs]

The right thing is to give people a choice of views and let the best person win. If he's as good as people think then he should be able to beat all parties.

That is the right thing to do. How ever in this instance, if the Greens see a consensus amongst their membership and leadership, then the decision not to stand a candidate is entirely democratic in my view.

 

[LutonSpurs]

As much as a like Burnham I do think his brand is a lot better than he actually might be. It's hard to tell. But is he more likely to steady the nerves than Kier? Yes.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

As much as a like Burnham I do think his brand is a lot better than he actually might be. It's hard to tell. But is he more likely to steady the nerves than Kier? Yes.

I think he is a steady pair of hands who is also a very able PR man, he is a doer of things too, see's through projects. Will the transition form mayor to PM be too much, I mean we will find out, but he has served in government before and to a fairly high level, so he isn't going in blind.

Time will tell but I am fairly confident in his abilities above the cluster thats come before with Labour and the Tories and the alternatives with Farage and Zack

 

[Gutter Boy]

If Green didn't field a candidate they would be doing the right thing for the country if you really want to stop the Reform surge. And it's is a real surge now. Tangible.

Could do a deal. No Green candidate in exchange for Polanski being made Energy Minister

 

[Gutter Boy]

Burnham is playing a dangerous game.

Or brave. If the only other path is Streeting then Garage, he has to act

 

[Gutter Boy]

I think he is a steady pair of hands who is also a very able PR man, he is a doer of things too, see's through projects. Will the transition form mayor to PM be too much, I mean we will find out, but he has served in government before and to a fairly high level, so he isn't going in blind.

Time will tell but I am fairly confident in his abilities above the cluster thats come before with Labour and the Tories and the alternatives with Farage and Zack

His one black mark was the political miscalculation that let Corbyn on the ballot when he would have been under the threshold if Burnham hadn't meddled

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

His one black mark was the political miscalculation that let Corbyn on the ballot when he would have been under the threshold if Burnham hadn't meddled

Thats a fair call