Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[Silly McSilly Face]

The UK environmental protections dropped since Brexit

The scale of the law changes means environmental legislation in the UK is facing death by a thousand cuts

www.theguardian.com

Cap on bankers' bonuses to be scrapped

The plan is part of a post-Brexit shake-up of City rules, but unions call it "obscene".

www.bbc.com

• Departure from EU Tax Frameworks:
  The UK is no longer subject to EU rules like ATAD, which introduced measures to counter tax avoidance, such as controlled foreign company rules and interest deductibility restrictions.

Human rights comment relate to withdrawal from the ECHR which the right in the country want to do. This is will enable the I position of greater levels of austerity and erode workers rights.

Ok so if everything I’ve said and every article I’ve posted is bs then what were the benefits of Brexit and who has benefited! None of you Brexit fanboys seem capable of answering these simple questions with any specific answer!

So in that first article, there isnt a single environmental regulation that has been repealed after Brexit. What they're pointing to is "OMG we left the EU environmental regulator and created our own British one...." and "OMG the EU has passed some new laws after Brexit banning some chemicals and we haven't done the same". This is not evidence of protections being destroyed, this is simply evidence of a new, independent approach.

Cap on bonuses in the banking sector was always opposed by the UK and disproportionately affected our economy. It isnt a financial safeguard either.

The UK has FATCA (we report foreign tax residents that open bank accounts in the UK to their country's tax authority) and our Criminal Finances Act goes above and beyond EU legislative requirements to prevent Tax Evasion anyway.

As to the ECHR, human rights are enshrined in UK human rights legislation. If we leave the ECHR it will merely remove the right of appeal of cases outside of the British legal system, which let's face it, is being royally abused left right and centre. It won't remove any of your human rights....

As to the benefit of brexit, the primary benefit of brexit is that I didn't want to be in the EU and we are not in the EU. And that makes me happy. It really is that simple.

 

[Crab.C.Nesbitt]

We created our own British environmental regulator that seems to be doing naff all based on the increase in water pollution since Brexit!

 

[Crab.C.Nesbitt]

“The UK has FATCA (we report foreign tax residents that open bank accounts in the UK to their country's tax authority) and our Criminal Finances Act goes above and beyond EU legislative requirements to prevent Tax Evasion anyway.”

Given London is known as the money laundering capital of the world I’m not sure that controls on foreign tax residents are all they are cracked up to be!

 

[Crab.C.Nesbitt]

“The UK has FATCA (we report foreign tax residents that open bank accounts in the UK to their country's tax authority) and our Criminal Finances Act goes above and beyond EU legislative requirements to prevent Tax Evasion l.

In what way does the criminal finances act to above and beyond eu legislation? And how does it apply to British tax havens like the Isle of Man and the BVI?

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

We created our own British environmental regulator that seems to be doing naff all based on the increase in water pollution since Brexit!

Youre referring to something outside of the remit of the regulation you were talking about. There was always a British water regulator, who has just imposed a record fine on Thames Water for unjustified sewerage discharges

 

[Crab.C.Nesbitt]

Youre referring to something outside of the remit of the regulation you were talking about. There was always a British water regulator, who has just imposed a record fine on Thames Water for unjustified sewerage discharges

Action has only been taken since Labour came into government.

England’s rivers to remain in poor state as EU laws ignored post-Brexit, says watchdog

Government’s failure to match EU measures to improve condition of rivers, lakes and oceans called ‘deeply concerning’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Crab.C.Nesbitt]

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• Weakened Regulations:
  Before Brexit, the UK was bound by EU environmental laws, including the Water Framework Directive, which set standards for water quality. Post-Brexit, the UK government has the power to amend or weaken these regulations, and there are concerns that this could lead to a relaxation of environmental protections.
  Reduced Enforcement:
  The EU's regulatory bodies played a role in monitoring and enforcing environmental standards in the UK. With Brexit, this oversight has been reduced, and there are questions about the capacity and effectiveness of the UK's own environmental watchdog, the Office for Environmental Protection (OEP), in holding polluters accountable.
  Funding Shortfalls:
  There are also concerns about insufficient funding for environmental protection, particularly for cleaning up polluted waterways. For example, the Environment Agency has estimated that it would cost £51 billion to clean up England's waters, but only £6.2 billion has been confirmed in funding.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

“The UK has FATCA (we report foreign tax residents that open bank accounts in the UK to their country's tax authority) and our Criminal Finances Act goes above and beyond EU legislative requirements to prevent Tax Evasion l.

In what way does the criminal finances act to above and beyond eu legislation? And how does it apply to British tax havens like the Isle of Man and the BVI?

It imposes a duty on regulated sector companies to prevent tax evasion and the facilitation of it and a corporate criminal offence of "failure to prevent the facilitation of tax evasion". Among a tonne of other stuff relating to unexplained wealth powers for law enforcement, information sharing and disclosure responsibilities. BVI is a BOT, and Isle of Man is a Crown Dependency. These are devolved matters for them

 

[Crab.C.Nesbitt]

The water industry has been very poorly regulated for a very long time. But there has been a very clear uplift in the pollution of our rivers and beaches since Brexit. It’s undeniable. Which speaks to the point s raise donnmy post above

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

• 
  
• Weakened Regulations:
  Before Brexit, the UK was bound by EU environmental laws, including the Water Framework Directive, which set standards for water quality. Post-Brexit, the UK government has the power to amend or weaken these regulations, and there are concerns that this could lead to a relaxation of environmental protections.
  Reduced Enforcement:
  The EU's regulatory bodies played a role in monitoring and enforcing environmental standards in the UK. With Brexit, this oversight has been reduced, and there are questions about the capacity and effectiveness of the UK's own environmental watchdog, the Office for Environmental Protection (OEP), in holding polluters accountable.
  Funding Shortfalls:
  There are also concerns about insufficient funding for environmental protection, particularly for cleaning up polluted waterways. For example, the Environment Agency has estimated that it would cost £51 billion to clean up England's waters, but only £6.2 billion has been confirmed in funding.
  
  
  
  
  
  

Again, just look at the state of what you're posting there. Headline = "weakened regulation" Text is "UK government now has the power to amend environmental legislation". I mean isnt that a good thing? That the people that we vote for actually have power?

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

Action has only been taken since Labour came into government.

England’s rivers to remain in poor state as EU laws ignored post-Brexit, says watchdog

Government’s failure to match EU measures to improve condition of rivers, lakes and oceans called ‘deeply concerning’

www.theguardian.com

How's that to do with the EU then?

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

“The UK has FATCA (we report foreign tax residents that open bank accounts in the UK to their country's tax authority) and our Criminal Finances Act goes above and beyond EU legislative requirements to prevent Tax Evasion anyway.”

Given London is known as the money laundering capital of the world I’m not sure that controls on foreign tax residents are all they are cracked up to be!

London is the number 1 processor of cross border banking transactions in the world. So yes, it is a hub for global money laundering.

 

[Crab.C.Nesbitt]

Again, just look at the state of what you're posting there. Headline = "weakened regulation" Text is "UK government now has the power to amend environmental legislation". I mean isnt that a good thing? That the people that we vote for actually have power?

Are hade you seen the people we vote for?

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

The water industry has been very poorly regulated for a very long time. But there has been a very clear uplift in the pollution of our rivers and beaches since Brexit. It’s undeniable. Which speaks to the point s raise donnmy post above

A very clear uplift in pollution since Brexit? Really? You're making out like the EU had some for of overseer power preventing this from happening and when we left all these water companies were like "whoo hoooo we ate free to dump sewerage!"

It's utter crap (literally). Sewerage has been done to death on this, but its been a crisis long in the making involving lack of investment in the ancient (in some cases literally Roman) waste water system, growing population, rapid house building and increasing severe weather events, all of which contribute to increasing discharges and none of which is related to Brexit. Would have been the same situation in or out.

 

[Gutter Boy]

A very clear uplift in pollution since Brexit? Really? You're making out like the EU had some for of overseer power preventing this from happening and when we left all these water companies were like "whoo hoooo we ate free to dump sewerage!"

It's utter crap (literally). Sewerage has been done to death on this, but its been a crisis long in the making involving lack of investment in the ancient (in some cases literally Roman) waste water system, growing population, rapid house building and increasing severe weather events, all of which contribute to increasing discharges and none of which is related to Brexit. Would have been the same situation in or out.

But mostly having the only privatised water system in the world. The only country where American pension firms and the Chinese government sell our rain back to us.

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

But mostly having the only privatised water system in the world. The only country where American pension firms and the Chinese government sell our rain back to us.

I certainly think Thames Water is getting to the point of no return in terms of remaining in private ownership. It effectively requires a government bailout to remain operating as it is.

 

[Gutter Boy]

I certainly think Thames Water is getting to the point of no return in terms of remaining in private ownership. It effectively requires a government bailout to remain operating as it is.

Better a repossession than a bailout

 

[scaramanga]

Not for the innocent men, women & children that are dying for no other reason but they happen to live in Iran or Gaza.

I agree. It's fudging disgusting that Hamas hides behind innocents to protect their murderous godtardery.

 

[scaramanga]

Or let's put our weapons away & stop killing innocent people & start acting like human beings.

Not everyone wants war I certainly don't & definitely don't do it in my name.

You know what happens if we all put our weapons away? The theocratic nutjob dictators in Iran build a nuke and the Israel/The West ceases to exist.

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

Better a repossession than a bailout

Well thats why I said i think its time in private ownership is hanging by a thread....