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Not happy in the rise in train fare/rail cards but otherwise its ok.


Want to see in the next 6 months the plans to renationalise railways, water etc. The plans could have been drawn up in opposition and the first year in government sorting through then with the uncivil servants.

Don't care if it takes 10 years, but put the time table before us. Paying g high prices to basically subside other countries railways is awful.
 
The data is damning:

Long the jewel in the British industrial crown, the country's financial sector has also been in decline.

Economic output in the heart of Britain's financial sector, including banks and wealth funds, has fallen by more than 15% since late 2019, just before the UK formally left the EU.

Overall, financial services output in Britain has fallen by 1% since late 2019 - a stark contrast with France and Germany, where it has increased by 8%, and Ireland's 18% growth, national account data shows.



Politicians can't say why there is such a big deficit, as no one wants to go back and open those wounds.
So let me get this straight.

You and all those that agree with this post, complain all the time how the investors, financial sectors and everything associated with it, has screwed this country over, via banks, wealth funds etc etc

Now the economy is rebalancing after decades of an economy heavily reliant on service sector, only really benefiting those involved in banking and financial services, and investors.

Now you are complaining about we are not part of the very thing that has dragged this country down.

What do you want?

Make your minds up?

Either you want a balanced economy or you don't?

Either you want an economy the serves the people, or you want an economy that serves the banks, investors, and financial service, leaving the rest fo the country behind?
 
Not happy in the rise in train fare/rail cards but otherwise its ok.


Want to see in the next 6 months the plans to renationalise railways, water etc. The plans could have been drawn up in opposition and the first year in government sorting through then with the uncivil servants.

Don't care if it takes 10 years, but put the time table before us. Paying g high prices to basically subside other countries railways is awful.
That is the problem of the budget.

Great we taxed the wealthy, to fund services.... most of it will get wasted.

But I haven't seen anything that save people in poor end of the earning spectrum, any savings on take to help them in the cost of living crisis...

Great the wealthy get tax more, but what about families that cant afford to eat, despite both parents working, those using food banks.

Admittedly I have not looked into details yet, but I have seen nothing that says saving poor people.
 
i think years from now, maybe 5 or more they will realise how bad phones are in schools etc and something will need to be done. got no problem with my son having a brick phone, but smart phones for boys and girls under 16 will be absolute poison.
I would say 18 to be honest.
 
i think years from now, maybe 5 or more they will realise how bad phones are in schools etc and something will need to be done. got no problem with my son having a brick phone, but smart phones for boys and girls under 16 will be absolute poison.

The main issue becomes education versus access. On the latter point, it is too late. That genie left the bottle. There has been so much social conditioning around smartphones and daily life (how much is everything run through apps?). If you stop kids frommhaving them they find other access. I think aggressive education in schools from 11-12 to teach both how they work in modern society, plus media assimilation courses to teach people how to find news versus opinion and agenda editorial dressed as news (I know, utopian and probably not possible)...I am all for specific guards and filters on certain apps, but we have reached a huge problem with regards to a generation who communicate with each other via apps. Society, and modern consumerism, has wired everybody through them...think about how they've also become the replacement for cash. How many people carry genuine amounts of physical cash with them? How many places accept it? And it is when you have little cash that it most dangerous to be physically seperated from it (have no tangible gauge). I'll stop...getting into old man territory! :)
 
i think years from now, maybe 5 or more they will realise how bad phones are in schools etc and something will need to be done. got no problem with my son having a brick phone, but smart phones for boys and girls under 16 will be absolute poison.

I agreed. But there is an uncomfortable truth that also needs addressing: parents are the greatest problem. Kids copy. And if parents are on their phones all the time, what can we expect?
 
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But it's the financial services that have drag this country down as it centred wealth creation around London, the financial centre of Britian, with branches in other major towns, leaving the rest of the country behind.
Those with sense, know that we should build up the other areas, not drag the successes down.
Also, Ireland is a tax haven with low corporation tax of 12.5% , that many remain remainers cried about the UK becoming like this. Most of the left and remainers would be frothing at the mouth with rage, if a Tory government did this.

I would guess there is more to those figures than it first seems.

There is: your complaints about this budget should be part directed at your own folly ad inability to see the wood for the trees.
 
So let me get this straight.

You and all those that agree with this post, complain all the time how the investors, financial sectors and everything associated with it, has screwed this country over, via banks, wealth funds etc etc

Now the economy is rebalancing after decades of an economy heavily reliant on service sector, only really benefiting those involved in banking and financial services, and investors.

Now you are complaining about we are not part of the very thing that has dragged this country down.

What do you want?

Make your minds up?

Either you want a balanced economy or you don't?

Either you want an economy the serves the people, or you want an economy that serves the banks, investors, and financial service, leaving the rest fo the country behind?

Weren't you just complaining about how bad this budget was?? Now you're suggesting we should want to be poorer and screw over successful businesses. No sensible person wanted that - to pay more taxes to cover the losses. Your rationale on this is as sound as your logic on immigration, even less so actually, which is damning :p

Mr negative. Everything is someone else's fault eh?
 
Weren't you just complaining about how bad this budget was?? Now you're suggesting we should want to be poorer and screw over successful businesses. No sensible person wanted that - to pay more taxes to cover the losses. Your rationale on this is as sound as your logic on immigration, even less so actually, which is damning :p

Mr negative. Everything is someone else's fault eh?
Ummmm... Yeah it is actually.

I am not the one who sets the countries policy on economics, rules, regulations, and budgets.

Not unless you think I have been a previous Chancellor of the Exchequer.
 
Those with sense, know that we should build up the other areas, not drag the successes down.

There is: your complaints about this budget should be part directed at your own folly ad inability to see the wood for the trees.
I demand change, by keeping the exact same economic philispophy and structure that lead me to demand change in the first place.

Insightful.
 
I find the arguments over inheritance tax largely odd

I will hopefully be able to leave my son a nice egg, depending how work goes in the next 10 years maybe a nice large egg, but I would have hoped if I go by 75-80 (GHod willing) he will be 35-40 so I would hope well into his own journey, anything left by me, even if taxed to death will be a nice windfall and one to supplement his already built life. I would worry if he was not progressing on hope I pop my clogs

I have no chance of inheritance of more than £10k in total from anyone.
We have no kids so the wife and i will die and leave a tidy estate.
Our wills divide 1 third between any remaining parents and siblings.
The other two thirds goes to three nominated charities.
So I have no real dog in the fight, but I'm against high levels of inheritance tax.
Just seems like a tax on top of a tax, how many times can you tax the same money.
 
I have no chance of inheritance of more than £10k in total from anyone.
We have no kids so the wife and i will die and leave a tidy estate.
Our wills divide 1 third between any remaining parents and siblings.
The other two thirds goes to three nominated charities.
So I have no real dog in the fight, but I'm against high levels of inheritance tax.
Just seems like a tax on top of a tax, how many times can you tax the same money.
Do you get taxed on passing down a family business?

Was watching LTT and in Canada, if you pass a business down to a family they have to pay tax on the value of the company. The prevents LTT being taken over by someone who adhere's to the philispophy on Linus's company, which will more than like be taken over by greedy profit driven investors who can afford to pay the costs.
 
Do you get taxed on passing down a family business?

Was watching LTT and in Canada, if you pass a business down to a family they have to pay tax on the value of the company. The prevents LTT being taken over by someone who adhere's to the philispophy on Linus's company, which will more than like be taken over by greedy profit driven investors who can afford to pay the costs.
Not a clue, a problem I will never have to worry about.
 
I find the arguments over inheritance tax largely odd

I will hopefully be able to leave my son a nice egg, depending how work goes in the next 10 years maybe a nice large egg, but I would have hoped if I go by 75-80 (GHod willing) he will be 35-40 so I would hope well into his own journey, anything left by me, even if taxed to death will be a nice windfall and one to supplement his already built life. I would worry if he was not progressing on hope I pop my clogs
Only the super rich pay inheritance tax. Its only the top 4% richest that it effects.
 
Only the super rich pay inheritance tax. Its only the top 4% richest that it effects.

As true as that is, it just feels lazy to me.
Governments should have to justify the money they raise and what they do with it.
This just always felt like a grab, an insurance for when they waste money.
And boy do they waste money.
 
As true as that is, it just feels lazy to me.
Governments should have to justify the money they raise and what they do with it.
This just always felt like a grab, an insurance for when they waste money.
And boy do they waste money.
You've got to do something. People shouldnt be dominating a society because their great grandad x10 fought at the Battle of Hastings and got given spoils. Or worse - they are their heirs of slavers, like most large landowners. Multi-generational land amassing is a very bad thing
 
But it's the financial services that have drag this country down as it centred wealth creation around London, the financial centre of Britian, with branches in other major towns, leaving the rest of the country behind.

Also, Ireland is a tax haven with low corporation tax of 12.5% , that many remain remainers cried about the UK becoming like this. Most of the left and remainers would be frothing at the mouth with rage, if a Tory government did this.

I would guess there is more to those figures than it first seems.
The financial services sector formed around London being a major trading hub, not the other way around. London has been the centre of British economy since Roman times.

A lot is made about the financial services sector in the UK, but it's really about our excellence in International trade in general, not just finance, but our world leading accounting and legal sectors.

That's why they were never going to be able to move the majority of euro clearing work away from London after Brexit without destroying the euro as a global currency. It is quite simple, if a transaction is cleared in London, the transaction is carried out in English law. Lots of major trade and finance centres around the world are English law jurisdictions. The accounting is done by a UK accountancy firm. If there's a dispute, it will be settled in an English court.

If you're an American, Japanese, Chinese, Indian, Brazilian business conducting a euro-denominated transaction, do you want that transaction to be dealt with in French or German and governed by notoriously bat-brick French courts, or an obscure and complex federal legal.system in Germany you aren't familiar with? Or do you want everything in English, governed by a law you're familiar with, under the jurisdiction of reliable English courts? To the present day its still (post-Brexit) a no-brainer.

As to the "finance jobs" and the "something else going on" you're alluding to, most articles and analysis written by "remainers" focus on one half of a consequence of Brexit: which is the end of *passporting*. I.e. British banks and FS companies can no longer use an FCA licence to service continental European customers. They've had to become regulated in an EU jurisdiction and that means establishing lots of head office functions in an EU state. It is these figures that people quote when they talk about "finance jobs lost to the UK". But you see none of these jobs are, in fact, "lost" for the most part, because that would assume all of these finance companies in the UK that wanted to continue servicing continental Europe did not want to remain authorised to service the UK market. The more accurate picture is that these jobs were brand new jobs created in Europe due to Brexit. What these analysts never mention is the flip side: that every European finance company servicing the UK had to become authorised and regulated over here to continue doing so, which they all did. They had to set up UK registered companies, create a head office and servicing function in the UK and move a tonne of regulatory capital over to the UK. Jobs were created in the UK financial sector on an industrial scale due to Brexit. And in fact, as per that mayor of City of London's analysis and the chart I've posted, the financial services sector in the UK has experienced rapid growth since Brexit.
 
i think years from now, maybe 5 or more they will realise how bad phones are in schools etc and something will need to be done. got no problem with my son having a brick phone, but smart phones for boys and girls under 16 will be absolute poison.
The school that I teach in has banned them during the school day from September just past; the pupils have adapted pretty quickly, to be honest, and we’ve already seen some positive changes in behaviour.
 
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