Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[Glenda's Legs]

So what stops somebody from those countries, if they have a valid asylum claim, obtaining a visitor visa and entering the country legally to then claim asylum?

Well off the top of my head - if I were fleeing war/persecution : I might not have enough time to go through a lengthy visa application process; I may not be able to travel to the applicable visa processing centre which might be hundreds of miles from my home or may even be in a different country (or I guess I just first apply for a visa to that country first?); I may not be able to provide a good enough reason for my visit (not having tried it this is an assumption but “sightseeing” just might not cut it); I may not have the necessary funds to demonstrate that I can support myself whilst visiting; I may not be able to show that I have reason to return home again after my trip.
But apart from that, sure, it’s easy.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Talk about uneducated

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[robp135]

You didn't but I saw a clip of him being taken to massive task by someone from yesterday who was, that was a wider point

Sincere question, because honestly after looking today and trying to understand yesterdays row on her, what is it you would like him to be accountable for? What areas are getting your goat about him? I know nothing about him and his history and honestly beyond loads of memes and AI slop on twitter I am not getting to a point where I understand the true issues at hand?

That’s because his public statements made in the media and in previous hearings have been that he did not advise lockdowns, school closures etc and that is directly contradicted by his diary and emails.

Approximatley 1M Americans people died from Covid. There should be a full investigation in to its origin and specific to Fauci we should understand why he was privately open to lab origins and awareness of funded research of the Wuhan lab but publicly dismissed thay as a conspiracy and made significant effort to steer the media, investigators and public towards natural origin.

 

[Lost Mango]

Talk about uneducated

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Won't be long until someone pops up with the 'they were national socialists' so must have been left wing BS.

For the record Dr Eli David is a bit of a Musk-lite dingdong cheese:

Dr. Eli David is an Israeli artificial intelligence entrepreneur and prominent online commentator who transitioned from tech-focused content to become a leading, unfiltered voice on global politics, COVID-19 skepticism, and pro-Israel advocacy

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Won't be long until someone pops up with the 'they were national socialists' so must have been left wing BS.

Someone who doesn't have an education on the origins of the party

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

That’s because his public statements made in the media and in previous hearings have been that he did not advise lockdowns, school closures etc and that is directly contradicted by his diary and emails.

Approximatley 1M Americans people died from Covid. There should be a full investigation in to its origin and specific to Fauci we should understand why he was privately open to lab origins and awareness of funded research of the Wuhan lab but publicly dismissed thay as a conspiracy and made significant effort to steer the media, investigators and public towards natural origin.

Hmmmmmmm interesting

 

[robp135]

Well off the top of my head - if I were fleeing war/persecution : I might not have enough time to go through a lengthy visa application process; I may not be able to travel to the applicable visa processing centre which might be hundreds of miles from my home or may even be in a different country (or I guess I just first apply for a visa to that country first?); I may not be able to provide a good enough reason for my visit (not having tried it this is an assumption but “sightseeing” just might not cut it); I may not have the necessary funds to demonstrate that I can support myself whilst visiting; I may not be able to show that I have reason to return home again after my trip.
But apart from that, sure, it’s easy.

A UK visitor visa application is done online and typically takes a few week to be issued. Those that have genuinely fled a wartorn situation will be in a safe neighbouring country already.

You are not required to disclose your asylum intent when applying for the visitor visa. You still have lawful status on arrival and the ability to claim asylum from inside the UK with full rights and support and far better credibility than arriving at on a boat without your passport.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

A UK visitor visa application is done online and typically takes a few week to be issued. Those that have genuinely fled a wartorn situation will be ona safe neighbouring country.

You are not required to disclose your asylum intent when applying for the visitor visa. You still have lawful status on arrival and the ability to claim asylum from inside the UK with full rights and support and far better credibility than arriving at on a boat without your passport.

I just had an official look at the requirements and you would 100% not be eligible for a tourist visa as a genuine asylum seeker

 

[robp135]

I just had an official look at the requirements and you would 100% not be eligible for a tourist visa as a genuine asylum seeker

Correct. But you can apply for a tourist visa, arrive in the UK and then claim asylum and its not a criminal offense. Arriving illegally via a non official port of entry is and will count against you in an asylum hearing.