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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

johnola said:
The government and leading elites did not want Brexit for gods sake.
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Well they did an incredibly bad job of stopping it from happening didn’t they?

Why even have a referendum on the first place? Elected officials are meant to be sufficiently well informed to make these decisions for us. We do after all elect them to govern on our behalf, not to deflect major decisions and thereby try to avoid responsibility.

Also I would definitely call farage and tice part of the “elites”
 
Crab.C.Nesbitt said:

Please don’t vote for this piece of brick 💩

He really is a massive clam
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Some won't have it, they worked out his DEI pledge saves 24m , he is claiming they can claw back 7bn. Some bloke called up LBC to say "I reckon its even more than 7bn" despite not even working in the real world anymore, he was of course retired of costal town.

Its just politics for jokers
 
Crab.C.Nesbitt said:
Well they did an incredibly bad job of stopping it from happening didn’t they?

Why even have a referendum on the first place? Elected officials are meant to be sufficiently well informed to make these decisions for us. We do after all elect them to govern on our behalf, not to deflect major decisions and thereby try to avoid responsibility.

Also I would definitely call farage and tice part of the “elites”
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I get it everyone is stupid and to blame except for all the good things that happen.
 
I find it interesting that the likes of Neil and Ferrari seem intent on goading the answer that we back the attacks and are going to head into a another war. Call me mad, call me soft, but I for one am happy for diplomatic and well thought out responses than declaring war.
 
Crab.C.Nesbitt said:

Please don’t vote for this piece of brick 💩

He really is a massive clam
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Sadly there are too many naïve people in the UK, be that though simpleton factors or not having access to fact based articles, who will no doubt join the bandwagon believing they are doing the right thing. Of course there will be the base of fascist's who will vote and then these will all get backed up by a level of "normal" people who understand what he is but aren't in for the fascism but more because they are disillusioned with how things are and any change is perceived as a good one.

A very dangerous person is ol Oswald Farage imo
 
Crab.C.Nesbitt said:
Well they did an incredibly bad job of stopping it from happening didn’t they?

Why even have a referendum on the first place? Elected officials are meant to be sufficiently well informed to make these decisions for us. We do after all elect them to govern on our behalf, not to deflect major decisions and thereby try to avoid responsibility.

Also I would definitely call farage and tice part of the “elites”
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Bit of research:
-Farage was partly booted out of Coutts because he did not meet the criteria.
- His dad was allegedly an alcoholic who left when he was 5 years old.
- He did go to private school but went to work straight out of school and didn't go to university.
- As much as he is comfortably well off, I definitely do not see Farage as an "elite". He's from an affluent middle class background, nothing more.

- Tice but more claim to elite status as his mum was a philanthropist and involved in horse riding and stuff. Also went to private school. But again family wealth and background nowhere near elite status. I'd say bottom of the upper classes at best.
 
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