Surely today is the day for a final 'tramp the dirt down' thread. It's our Thatcher's funeral.
Its as good as it gets :ross:
I find English enjoying negativity over positivity strange, but it's common place. For me Holland winning the World Cup is as good as it gets or Ajax winning the Champion's League or Spurs winning the Premiership. For you, Redknapp's team getting relegated is as good as it gets. Honestly, I think Spurs winning the Premiership is as good as it gets, not seeing a former coach who did well for us coaching a relegated team.
He's making fun of Redknapp. He's referring to when a journo confronted Redknapp about crowd unrest/booing last season when we'd lost 3rd place to Arsenal. Redknapp launched into a tirade against Spurs fans calling us all macarons and said being 4th was as good as it gets for a club like spurs
Maybe, but I have never seen him make a point. Only be critical and make negative comments. I doubt that is what he meant at all. And Redknapp is right. Chelsea and City and Utd should be top three simply through resources. Arsenal and Liverpool should be above us too, and I fear if we fail top four this season then we will see us fall behind both of them next season.
Maybe, but I have never seen him make a point. Only be critical and make negative comments. I doubt that is what he meant at all. And Redknapp is right. Chelsea and City and Utd should be top three simply through resources. Arsenal and Liverpool should be above us too, and I fear if we fail top four this season then we will see us fall behind both of them next season.
He's not right. Redknapp had the 3rd best team in the country last year. He had Bale, VDV, Modric, an in-form Adebayor and Ledley King for part of it at least. We were 10 points clear but he took his eye off the ball. Tbh with the benefit of hindsight and comparing our team on paper we should have put in a title challenge past January! It was a massive failure by Harry. We had the best central mid in the country, the best winger and one of the best attacking midfielders. He had a trio of world class players plus solid surrounding players. Sandro couldn't even get a game. Neither could Kranjcar and Pienaar. That squad was so packed full of quality and depth and he fudged it up big style so no, 4th wasn't as good as it could get, it was a failure and he knew it, the fans knew it and more importantly Levy knew it
He's not right. Redknapp had the 3rd best team in the country last year. He had Bale, VDV, Modric, an in-form Adebayor and Ledley King for part of it at least. We were 10 points clear but he took his eye off the ball. Tbh with the benefit of hindsight and comparing our team on paper we should have put in a title challenge past January! It was a massive failure by Harry. We had the best central mid in the country, the best winger and one of the best attacking midfielders. He had a trio of world class players plus solid surrounding players. Sandro couldn't even get a game. Neither could Kranjcar and Pienaar. That squad was so packed full of quality and depth and he fudged it up big style so no, 4th wasn't as good as it could get, it was a failure and he knew it, the fans knew it and more importantly Levy knew it
Do you know what? I get why people don't like him, I agree that the media give him an easy ride, largely because he is a good quote, hardly a surprise is it? But people made excuses for Jol, granted he was hugely unlucky on the last day of the 05/06 season, but he gets a free ride for the team conceding late goals in numerous games that cost us valuable points and also for our terrible record against the big 4. I accept Redknapp had a better team than Jol had, but Jol had better strikers, Berbatov (a world class player in his time for Spurs) and Keane a very good striker. We've all seen in the last couple of seasons how great strikers can carry teams. Ok, we should have finished above Arsenal last season, but we finished 4th, and I don't think many people would have said that at the beginning. And Arsenal only held on to 3rd place due to some of the most pathetic goalkeeping I have ever seen. Then we all know what happened in Munich. If that had happened in Paris when Arsenal played Barca, people would be far more forgiving of Jol.
You may not like the man, but it's silly when people can't look past that. I for one can't stand Berbatov, but I would be fudging stupid to say he wasn't one of the best strikers we've had at the club in the last 20 years.
See I don't think that is true. City, Utd and Chelsea were the best teams and Arsenal had Van Persie and that was enough for them to be better than us too.
We also played a lot of squad players last season, and we actually played more than most clubs and yet people often say we didn't. People forget we had a lot of injuries last season, more than this season but the injuries were more to squad players.
But people don't give him any credit for finishing above Chelsea. When was the last time we previously did that? I don't think we had a better side than Chelsea. I would say we had the 4th best squad, but we also blew 3rd.
Interesting to see if people blow up if we finish 5th. Don't seem to remember too many posters saying Arsenal were better than us after we beat them and were 7 points clear of them. I would say it's a failure if we don't finish above them now.
Do you know what? I get why people don't like him, I agree that the media give him an easy ride, largely because he is a good quote, hardly a surprise is it? But people made excuses for Jol, granted he was hugely unlucky on the last day of the 05/06 season, but he gets a free ride for the team conceding late goals in numerous games that cost us valuable points and also for our terrible record against the big 4. I accept Redknapp had a better team than Jol had, but Jol had better strikers, Berbatov (a world class player in his time for Spurs) and Keane a very good striker. We've all seen in the last couple of seasons how great strikers can carry teams. Ok, we should have finished above Arsenal last season, but we finished 4th, and I don't think many people would have said that at the beginning. And Arsenal only held on to 3rd place due to some of the most pathetic goalkeeping I have ever seen. Then we all know what happened in Munich. If that had happened in Paris when Arsenal played Barca, people would be far more forgiving of Jol.
You may not like the man, but it's silly when people can't look past that. I for one can't stand Berbatov, but I would be fudging stupid to say he wasn't one of the best strikers we've had at the club in the last 20 years.
It shouldn't have been enough for them to be better than us. Our run of form after January was horrendous, relegation form, we looked clueless every game we played, with a team full of class. We lost to qpr, drew with wolves at home, villa away got humiliated by arsenal and man utd, lost to Everton, got humiliated against Chelsea in the cup, just countless games where we played brick turgid football and the players didn't seem to care - he wasn't managing he was waiting for the call from the FA. He didn't have bad injuries to key players, not half as bad as this season. Bale, Modric & Ade hardly missed any games.
Chelsea were average last season. They looked tired and old. They finished 6th. People forget that. We had a better, younger, fitter squad than them or Arsenal last season.
But people don't give him any credit for finishing above Chelsea. When was the last time we previously did that? I don't think we had a better side than Chelsea. I would say we had the 4th best squad, but we also blew 3rd.
Interesting to see if people blow up if we finish 5th. Don't seem to remember too many posters saying Arsenal were better than us after we beat them and were 7 points clear of them. I would say it's a failure if we don't finish above them now.
Chelsea and Arsenal were very weak last year, Chelsea are much,much better this year. Hazard, Oscar, Ba and an in form Mata.
They also gave up Di Matteo went for the CL and the Cup.
Speaking of that, lets not forget the 5-1 SF final defeat against Chelsea, the first decent team we played, or the 2-0 SF defeat against Pompey when we did not play a decent team at all.
It shouldn't have been enough for them to be better than us. Our run of form after January was horrendous, relegation form, we looked clueless every game we played, with a team full of class. We lost to qpr, drew with wolves at home, villa away got humiliated by arsenal and man utd, lost to Everton, got humiliated against Chelsea in the cup, just countless games where we played brick turgid football and the players didn't seem to care - he wasn't managing he was waiting for the call from the FA. He didn't have bad injuries to key players, not half as bad as this season. Bale, Modric & Ade hardly missed any games.
Chelsea were average last season. They looked tired and old. They finished 6th. People forget that. We had a better, younger, fitter squad than them or Arsenal last season.
It won't be a failure as while we moved 7 points clear out fixture list was always tougher from that point on. Also their squad and team are better individually and more settled. They also have had less injuries. We had to play several games without Bale, Lenon & Defoe this season