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Definately find that gif of Henry diving against (I think) Wigan, it's the worst dive i've ever seen, if anyone could find it it would be great to see it again to remind me of what a **** he is and how hypocritical that club is. Always moaning about Stoke when they're probably the dirtiest team to ever play Prem football, how many sendings off / bookings Arsene?
I can handle the scum being better than us, but the way they try to take the moral high ground on things when they're morals are in the gutter, RVP proved it again this week and the fans just lap up every thing Arsene says like it's the truth ! Massively DELUDED football club.
Worst ever was Pires against Portsmouth - can't find the video but it was beyond awful.
Worst ever was Pires against Portsmouth - can't find the video but it was beyond awful.
You cant dish out a three match ban for that though. Yes he dived but you a) cannot say that with 100% certainty and b) cant deny that Young did get clipped.
Also players jump over tackles etc to prevent themselves from getting hurt, a bit like a horse jumping over a hurdle. What are we gonna do then? dish out three match bans?
The one where he rolled "injured" off the pitch - then rolled back onto the pitch again, because he realised the game wouldn't be stopped? Or was that the **** of a human being Reyes?
You can't ban it because everyone is looking for a pen so there's always a grey area.
If the rule is to do all you can to stay on your feet then there's no longer a grey area. By retrospectively punishing dives you no longer have that grey area where referees need to make a judgement call.
But if doing all you can to stay on your feet means risking getting hurt then I dont think that is also fair.
Gary Neville showed a clip a couple of weeks back of a Swansea player being held back by Gallas - it was a clear penalty BUT because the Swansea guy stayed on his feet the referee didnt give the penalty. Now you can argue that the referee is incompetent and should give a penalty regardless of whether the player went down or not but I am pretty sure if the Swansea player "dived" he would have got the penalty. I think thats why players do it in addition to protecting themselves.
But if doing all you can to stay on your feet means risking getting hurt then I dont think that is also fair.
Gary Neville showed a clip a couple of weeks back of a Swansea player being held back by Gallas - it was a clear penalty BUT because the Swansea guy stayed on his feet the referee didnt give the penalty. Now you can argue that the referee is incompetent and should give a penalty regardless of whether the player went down or not but I am pretty sure if the Swansea player "dived" he would have got the penalty. I think thats why players do it in addition to protecting themselves.
I agree that there should be retrospective bans for divers, as there should be for persistent play actors. Drogba is bar far the biggest culprit, pretending to be injured when he's not. At one point on Wednesday he stamped on Busquets' foot and then threw himself to the floor making out like he was the one who had been fouled. Later on, someone brushed his shin, and he went down holding his face. It is cheating, pure and simple. He tries to convince the ref he has been fouled to get opponents sent off, and that's just as bad as diving. If simulation is supposed to be a bookable offence then he was lucky not to get sent off about 5 times. He's a disgrace.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...iver-Ashley-Young-a-cheat-and-a-disgrace.html
In a scathing editorial, influential fanzine Red Issue pilloried Young, slamming him for ‘his latest disgraceful dive’ and adds ‘diving is cheating’ and says his behaviour is a betrayal of the code of conduct instilled at Old Trafford by legendary boss Matt Busby.
The editorial quotes Busby’s saying: “If anything is to be gained from football, it is to be gained by winning or losing with dignity.”
For good measure, the magazine also describes former United star and Sky pundit Gary Neville’s attempts to justify diving and other forms of cheating as ‘depressing’.
You cant dish out a three match ban for that though. Yes he dived but you a) cannot say that with 100% certainty and b) cant deny that Young did get clipped.
Also players jump over tackles etc to prevent themselves from getting hurt, a bit like a horse jumping over a hurdle. What are we gonna do then? dish out three match bans?
Regarding being hurt, I think it's fairly easy to distinguish between avoiding injury and tryin to win a free kick/penalty. Again, referees need training in what constitutes an unfair advantage to a defender.
If a player has to get out of the way of a clearly unfair tackle then it's not a dive - I've never understood why these aren't given when there isn't contact. If I swing a punch at an opponent on a football pitch and miss, contact is irrelevant - I still get sent off. Fouls should be the same - contact doesn't have to happen for the foul to exist.
You actually can. He ran into the defender's leg. Other angles prove the defender left his leg in the same position, he did not move it, and Young took advantage and deliberatly ran into it. I hate all this "Young should be careful cos he'll get a reputation for diving" crap, he's been a cheating **** for years! He was diving when he was at Villa.