Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
true, I’d like a breakdown, total xG of everything, then that which was due to set pieces
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**OMT Tottenham vs Everton**
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true, I’d like a breakdown, total xG of everything, then that which was due to set pieces
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
Caley does this, which I think is the right way to do it. Pens have an xG of 0.78 so a team that wins two penalties and does nothing else would have an xG of 1.56. If the opposing team had an xG of 1.60, you would think it was a pretty even game chancewise, but that would not really be the case. So keeping pens separate is a more accurate reflection of the game. Some sites also give you open play and set piece xG, so you can drill down further on how a team created its chances. It's nice to have this granularity, as it can help you determine which team was more deserving, even if you didn't watch the game.
Of course xG alone does not the whole picture tell. You have to look at it in combination with other stats. E.g. team A has an xG of 0.90 on one shot and team B an xG of 0.95 on 6 shots. Well, this basically means that team B created a few really good chances, whereas team A might have done absolutely nothing and scored from a terrible keeper mistake that resulted in a tap in from 1 meter. Looking at just xG you would think the teams were evenly matched, although that may not have been the case.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Ian Walker
He does barge him but there is no way he can jockey him, there is 10 yards of space either side of him and 20 yards in front, it's a foot race with only one winner.
metalgear
Luka Modric
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...m-v-everton-premier-league-live-score-updates
Richy went off, formation changed, then everything went our way...
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...m-v-everton-premier-league-live-score-updates
this is the game i saw
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
Yeah, it's the game we both saw. I was not responding to whether the change in formation resulted in us playing better. I was responding to your initial post that said we were marginally better in the second half. We weren't; we were miles better compared to our first half performance and miles better than Everton.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
they had 2 lucky breaks which they didn’t maximise because their played weren’t good enough
That’s what I saw
thfcsteff
George Hunt
I think the current narrative on us is really lazy and lacks context TBH. We are managing a block of matches. We cannot each game like it is the only one, we have to control games and manage time to minimize injuries. The current system works. That is beyond opinion, it is a fact because it is working.
As for the formation switch, we are lucky Bissouma seems to be more in sync with what we do. It isn't as 'easy' as some make it out to be, and his learning curve was vital to the performance and second goal. Before Saturday, he had not shown that awareness.
I am happy Conte is talking up 3-4-3 with Perisic on Wed, as it is important that the oppo do not know what we will do on Wed.
As for the formation switch, we are lucky Bissouma seems to be more in sync with what we do. It isn't as 'easy' as some make it out to be, and his learning curve was vital to the performance and second goal. Before Saturday, he had not shown that awareness.
I am happy Conte is talking up 3-4-3 with Perisic on Wed, as it is important that the oppo do not know what we will do on Wed.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
conte likes to keep the opposition thinking
parklane1
Tony Galvin
I agree with all of that especially the bolded bit.
metalgear
Luka Modric
yes true was supporting my earlier post that a better team could have done us in.
re: lucky breaks, from another perspective its patient and efficient attacking. just that and i agree, everton doesn't have the quality. what was fat frank thinking when he let dele go? they can't get worse than this.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
It really wasn’t patient play from them
They were awful and just set up to park the bus
It was an error from Peh and a hopefully long ball
But you say about other teams… we not make mistakes vs other teams as we may feel like we have to play differently
dele would be a good fit in theory but I’ve no idea how he is getting on in turkey now
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Did you check expected goals for those two chances? Reality is even a top team may well have missed both!
metalgear
Luka Modric
if i'm not wrong xG does pick up contextual info such as number of defenders blocking and the quality of the player taking the shot. Its just average goals from that spot through history in a particular league.
maybe someone else can confirm...
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Roland Beurre
Richard Gough
I agree. Those sorts of chances, where the attacker is running full pelt for a long distance with an angry defender on his tail are very difficult to convert. Maybe Jimmy Greaves would've been odds on to score one of those chances in his pomp but not many others would have been or would be (Michael Owen maybe).
Pirate55
The Last Man Standing 17/18
Really hope Conte is just playing mind games.
If Eriksen plays, maybe Bissouma could just mark him out the match.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Xg picks up location of shot and conversion rate
I don’t believe it takes it’s timing of the game, weather, who is taking the shot as 3 really big variables IMO
lurker of old
Gus Poyet
Those sorts of chances, where the attacker is running full pelt for a long distance with an angry defender on his tail are very difficult to convert. Maybe Jimmy Greaves would've been odds on to score one of those chances in his pomp but not many others would have been or would be
Sadly I remember Steven Gerrard doing exactly that to give Liverpool a one nil win at the Lane, after we had been all over them for 80 minutes but just couldn't score. Who was the useless ex Wimbledon defender who should have rugby tackled Gerrard but just let him waltz through?
Sadly I remember Steven Gerrard doing exactly that to give Liverpool a one nil win at the Lane, after we had been all over them for 80 minutes but just couldn't score. Who was the useless ex Wimbledon defender who should have rugby tackled Gerrard but just let him waltz through?
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
John Scales?
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Could have been Chris Perry both were crap.