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***OMT: Tottenham Hotspur vs. Fulham *** Sunday, December 1, 1:30 pm UK

Mikey10 said:
I thought we now have a structure in place on the football side that is second to none?
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I am not one of those people! While I agree we should Def have youngsters. Think we need a mix. And or if we are only using youngsters....THEY NEED TO PLAY.

Especially when half the team is injured
 
Mrs Vert said:
I am not one of those people! While I agree we should Def have youngsters. Think we need a mix. And or if we are only using youngsters....THEY NEED TO PLAY
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Wasn’t aimed at you at all - more a comment on the reasonably frequently stated view on here that Levy has put in place a fantastic buying structure tailored to Ange’s specific needs.
 
Yiddo said:
Looking at the stats it doesn’t even look like we are controlling the game anymore either.
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It was obvious from early in the game that the players were shattered. I’m also still not convinced they’ve completely bought into the plan.
 
Spoonman said:
Played 97 minutes without any sort of presence up front. What is the point of putting Lankshear on the bench if you don't even trust him for 15 minutes against 10 men?
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Today was the clearest illustration yet that the team was weakened over the summer. We’ve got a load of youngsters that the manager doesn’t trust even when we are crippled with injuries, and when those on the pitch are on their last legs.
 
Mikey10 said:
Today was the clearest illustration yet that the team was weakened over the summer. We’ve got a load of youngsters that the manager doesn’t trust even when we are crippled with injuries, and when those on the pitch are on their last legs.
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Saw the same last season.

Look some of them may not be up to scratch, but the results are not exactly great, would rather try something that isn't more of the same and results in blooding some youngsters
 
Mikey10 said:
Today was the clearest illustration yet that the team was weakened over the summer. We’ve got a load of youngsters that the manager doesn’t trust even when we are crippled with injuries, and when those on the pitch are on their last legs.
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It's worse than that for me. We see a Fulham side who weren't the better team in the early exchanges but they have a manager, trust and mindset that they can make on-pitch changes and take control. The manager and players shut the gaps in their system and negated our best players. They then exploited our wide areas as every team does and took control of the game. What did our manager do to negate that? NOTHING.

This is why our kids don't get on the pitch. The seniors have been drilled to play Ange's system in every circumstance, and of course we love it when we see results like last week. Our players are not allowed to change things themselves on the pitch like other teams do. Of course, we think that is not having leaders but actually it is more complex than that. Ange genuinely believes that repetition, repetition, repetition is the only way and eventually he will get around to drilling it into the youngsters he currently doesn't trust to use. It is nothing to do with their actual abilities or even readiness for the PL.

It was exactly the same last season through the injury crisis. Ange wouldn't trust a free spirit playmaker in Donley, but sat him in the 1st team training squad for 6 weeks. Then when he did finally get more than 30 seconds he was quiet because he was scared to play like he was for his other manager, Wayne Burnett, in the U21s.

There are so many more chapters in that manager playbook that Ange could call upon. It his choice and as BFS keeps reminding us, he could find himself being the Harry before the Poch.
 
parked on the M25 on my way home.

Thought that Fulham deserved a point at least. That’s not to say that I thought they were particularly great, by the way. But let’s be frank: we were dire. Truly dire.

It’s during games like today that I struggle to see any development under Ange, and any indication as to what he’s trying to do. Unless what he’s trying to do is to concede cheap, easy chances from identical areas week after week. The most glaring error on his part today was (in my uneducated view) keeping Son on the field for over 100 minutes. He was pony throughout. The man is a bonafide legend and deserves a lifetime of credit of Tottenham. However, professional sport is a brutal business and no amount of past credit should mean a player gets to stay on the field while offering precisely nothing for that period of time.

I’ve spent most of this season Worrying that Ange is out of his depth, while desperately hoping I am wrong. The majority of performances indicate that he’s lost st sea.

That said, I think that unless something as dire as relegation is looking likely, we need to give him this season and next season to prove himself. It’s going to be painful.

Anyway, see you in Boscombe on Thursday night!!
 
Started off well in the first 5 mins but kind of fizzled out after that. Our goal was against the run of play and Fulham would have won that if they had better finishers. People were saying this wasn’t a Doctor Tottenham type game before the game but it’s quite funny that we beat the best team in the league away from home 4-0 then draw at home to Roma who haven’t won away since April and then a lacklustre draw against Fulham 😂 this club won’t ever change will it?!
 
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