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Bishop said:
High kicks make sense, but a diving header? That dangerous to the player going for the flipping header. Man i hate football these days. 🤣
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If a player is about to kick the ball in a height that is normal for kicking the ball, and a player dives in head first, it's the players who dives in head first that is causing the danger, therefore committing a foul, and an indirect free kick is to be given.

It's been that way since forever.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Somehow today we created over 1.5 XG without hitting the target
In a kind of fan of data when used correctly but I watched that game and we didn’t make their keeper work at all
It was bland, slow and robotic
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That’s exactly what XG highlights vs shots on target. One great chance and one really good chance, both missed the target. You could argue Porro had a shot on target from 40 yards. Would be 0.01 XG.
 
Bishop said:
No, Robertson can also have done nonsense on the move, but White ran through the middle of the pitch, ostensibly VDV side, where he should be positioned. I have 0 issue criticising the pair of them. Do you? Sounds like you want to absolve VDV of all responsibility in this situation and apportion it all to the LB…
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Nah.
You only mentioned VdV. THAT'S what I was pointing out. There were several breaks, and VdV was the absolute least of them, however that does not fit your (apparent) agenda.
 
Bishop said:
I'd have to watch it again but Tonali was chasing the player back, if he hadn't done so then it would have just been a clear shot on goal as VDV and Robertson had totally mis-read the play. I'm not sure what your complaint or criticism of Tonali is in that sitauation? At least on initial viewing its to his credit that he spotted the danger when none of the defense did and played his part in trying (but failing to stop it).
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To my eye...the issue starts when Milenkovic is on the ball. Marmoush and Gallagher are both there. Marmoush should press him. Tonali watches Delap run past him showing for the ball. Why does he not go with Delap (I believe). What is a he guarding there? Gibbs-White? Why hasn't Robertson tucked in, who is HE marking/watching? As for Tonali, he let Delap run and receive that short pass unchallenged (and effectively allowed him to play that short pass to McAtee who plays it past Tonali anyway - he's slow to see that ball).
Of the two CBs, the one I'd criticize there is JPVH who has allowed MGW to remain onside; if he pushes half a yard MGW is offside.

I think RDZ wants us to play higher when possible. What I cannot figure out is why neither Marmoush or Gallagher pressed their initial men, and why Tonali didn't either follow Delap when he showed for that ball from Milenkovic, or then read the ball from McAttee better/not notice MGW running in behind him?

I can see why on first glance it looks like a CB positional error, but a closer inspection (IMO) shows it is a systemic breakdown which for me is an example of a side which has not played much football together and is still finding its rhythm.

FWIW...I'm well up for exchanges of this nature, and discussing/debating points (I learn too). I'm personally not up for repetitive 'he's not a good defender' when it's clear he actually is, plus it's clear it's an opinion you hold which we'll never agree on.
 
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