*OMT Tottenham Hotspur v c...sea *

[Bedfordspurs]

Only one team will get a player sent off with this clam ref!

And ziyech will score a goal

 

[AdamB]

Without wanting to defend the ref, looking at the replay Ziyech slapped Royal's shoulder and then his hand skidded up to Royal's cheek

Was a nonsensical process which he went through though

 

[paxtonwolf]

That is the sort of pathetic decision that will galvanise those fudges. And of course, Ziyech will be involved in a goal.

Nailed on. Son will have to come on and get the equaliser to salvage a point

 

[AdamB]

Hasselbaink hahahaha
The bias from him is embarassing
Ziyech went to shove Royal in the shoulder but his hand slipped and accidentally whacked him in the face
How can he say that with a straight face

He did hit Royal's shoulder though

 

[SpurMeUp]

Its one of those that is too borderline to change. VAR wouldn't change it. The ref with the monitors would not change that decision. That the actual ref does isn't right. Fine if you don't give a red first off, I get that. It is borderline. But technically a red.

 

[alekaras]

What a fudging farce. That was two yellows if it wasn’t a straight red. One for the initial challenge, one for the push in the face.

This.

 

[Rorschach]

Without wanting to defend the ref, looking at the replay Ziyech slapped Royal's shoulder and then his hand skidded up to Royal's cheek

Was a nonsensical process which he went through though

Gooner

 

[Jordinho]

Without wanting to defend the ref, looking at the replay Ziyech slapped Royal's shoulder and then his hand skidded up to Royal's cheek

Was a nonsensical process which he went through though

Should have had a yellow for the tackle as well and possibly the first player he shoves.

 

[scaramanga]

Hasselbaink hahahaha
The bias from him is embarassing
Ziyech went to shove Royal in the shoulder but his hand slipped and accidentally whacked him in the face
How can he say that with a straight face

Why should that matter?

If I go in for a tackle aiming for the ball but take someone's knee, it's a red.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Said it all season you need refs to have some gravitas to deal with these games but most are prettified now because of things like VaR

 

[AdamB]

Its one of those that is too borderline to change. VAR wouldn't change it. The ref with the monitors would not change that decision. That the actual ref does isn't right. Fine if you don't give a red first off, I get that. It is borderline. But technically a red.

I think thats a fair argument which Sky missed out

The ref gave the red. Question is whether that was a 'clear and obvious' mistake. Personally I think it was a yellow (probably), but as you say it was somewhat borderline and a red probably wasnt a clear/obvious error

 

[AdamB]

Why should that matter?

If I go in for a tackle aiming for the ball but take someone's knee, it's a red.

It wasnt that he 'aimed' for his shoulder. Its that he hit his shoulder

 

[SpurMeUp]

I think thats a fair argument which Sky missed out

The ref gave the red. Question is whether that was a 'clear and obvious' mistake. Personally I think it was a yellow (probably), but as you say it was somewhat borderline and a red probably wasnt a clear/obvious error

Basically where VAR is a total waste of time. Ref would have been best off, just giving a booking for the tackle and getting on with the game. VAR added nothing. Just disrupted and confused the game!

 

[Jordinho]

Said it all season you need refs to have some gravitas to deal with these games but most are prettified now because of things like VaR

VAR usually only intervenes when the ref gets it horribly wrong to protect their integrity. Can't say a red there was an obvious mistake.

 

[AdamB]

VAR usually only intervenes when the ref gets it horribly wrong to protect their integrity. Can't say a red there was an obvious mistake.

Agreed

 

[IulianSteaua]

Think he was going to book Havertz

Nope, it was going to Ziyech

 

[tommysvr]

Dermot Gallagher on the international feed saying it’s a yellow card because “he didn’t punch him and didn’t make contact with his face.

A) The laws say nothing about punching
B) He did make contact with his face

fudging mind boggling

 

[AdamB]

Back on actual football, this game is there for the taking if we can produce a typical second half performance

 

[Baleforce]

Without wanting to defend the ref, looking at the replay Ziyech slapped Royal's shoulder and then his hand skidded up to Royal's cheek

Was a nonsensical process which he went through though

nah, it was a solid left hook straight to the jaw

 

[AdamB]

great start!!!