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Batspur said:
I think the foot print was a bit larger than that.
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I saw an original application for planning
And I’ve some to a couple of the lady players who know about it as one of them goes to school with kids
Their really excited about it and see it as a stepping stone in the right direction
Personally it feels like the club are taking akin that could be used for other things but there was some public space improvements in the plans that were shared
All the applications are in Tottenham’s name not Tavistock
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I saw an original application for planning
And I’ve some to a couple of the lady players who know about it as one of them goes to school with kids
Their really excited about it and see it as a stepping stone in the right direction
Personally it feels like the club are taking akin that could be used for other things but there was some public space improvements in the plans that were shared
All the applications are in Tottenham’s name not Tavistock
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Ok Daniel
 
SteveAWOL said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1784911939929293000
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These spots wind me up so bloody much. All Gallagher ever does is spout flimflams reasons to back up his referee mates. Okay, those two cases were marginal, but I'd love to see what he said for Kulu's penalty shout or indeed the push on Romero before he hit the post.

But what winds me up even more is the fact that no-one seems to understand the errors intrinsic in the VAR offside system. The concept of it relies on lines being drawn at the very moment that the passer's foot touches the ball. Even assuming that they've got access to a lot more frames than the 50fps broadcast feed, there's going to be a few cm error in there. So simply draw bars at, say, 5cm thickness and, unless there's space between them, the attacker gets the benefit of the doubt. Or follow cricket and draw 10cm bars (say) then go with the linesman's call as the default.

That said, I do think VdV was offside. A defender swinging at the ball to clear it doesn't constitute being in control if you ask me, and VdV's arse looks off by more than the odd centimetre.
 
FatBloke said:
These spots wind me up so bloody much. All Gallagher ever does is spout flimflams reasons to back up his referee mates. Okay, those two cases were marginal, but I'd love to see what he said for Kulu's penalty shout or indeed the push on Romero before he hit the post.

But what winds me up even more is the fact that no-one seems to understand the errors intrinsic in the VAR offside system. The concept of it relies on lines being drawn at the very moment that the passer's foot touches the ball. Even assuming that they've got access to a lot more frames than the 50fps broadcast feed, there's going to be a few cm error in there. So simply draw bars at, say, 5cm thickness and, unless there's space between them, the attacker gets the benefit of the doubt. Or follow cricket and draw 10cm bars (say) then go with the linesman's call as the default.

That said, I do think VdV was offside. A defender swinging at the ball to clear it doesn't constitute being in control if you ask me, and VdV's arse looks off by more than the odd centimetre.
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What's interesting is that sky are flagging it up, very surprised at that tbh, and the everyone apart from the refs seem to find merit in flagging it up.
I fully expected it to be either ignored or batted away.
 
FatBloke said:
These spots wind me up so bloody much. All Gallagher ever does is spout flimflams reasons to back up his referee mates. Okay, those two cases were marginal, but I'd love to see what he said for Kulu's penalty shout or indeed the push on Romero before he hit the post.

But what winds me up even more is the fact that no-one seems to understand the errors intrinsic in the VAR offside system. The concept of it relies on lines being drawn at the very moment that the passer's foot touches the ball. Even assuming that they've got access to a lot more frames than the 50fps broadcast feed, there's going to be a few cm error in there. So simply draw bars at, say, 5cm thickness and, unless there's space between them, the attacker gets the benefit of the doubt. Or follow cricket and draw 10cm bars (say) then go with the linesman's call as the default.

That said, I do think VdV was offside. A defender swinging at the ball to clear it doesn't constitute being in control if you ask me, and VdV's arse looks off by more than the odd centimetre.
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Would like to see the same as cricket with Lineman's/refs call on the margin of error ones. Returns decision making to those on the pitch as well. Someone said there was a known 6" (15cm) area of uncertainty in the frames/line accuracy which is shocking to treat as gospel.

On the offside, does the defender have to be in control? Thought the wording was about intentional action (no matter the co-ordination abilities!!) rather than control. If he swings deliberately and shins it that is on him not the rule.
 
Lost Mango said:
Would like to see the same as cricket with Lineman's/refs call on the margin of error ones. Returns decision making to those on the pitch as well. Someone said there was a known 6" (15cm) area of uncertainty in the frames/line accuracy which is shocking to treat as gospel.

On the offside, does the defender have to be in control? Thought the wording was about intentional action (no matter the co-ordination abilities!!) rather than control. If he swings deliberately and shins it that is on him not the rule.
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Intentionally kicking the ball and blocking ain't the same thing.
 
Finney Is Back said:
My GHod…. Vicario was/is even weaker than I thought. Terrible goalkeeping.
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It was/is
But it’s still a foul on him
Arsenal amongst other complained that Kane used to back in on centre backs. It’s the sense here, with the difference being the ball is nowhere near them and Vicario can’t jump
He has to take charge
He did it a lot in the first half of the season and I know you said you wanted even more of that… which I’m fine with
I want my keeper coming for everything. That way as a defender you know where you stand.
It could go like Onana but he has only conceded one penalty from it so far
 
Batspur said:
You could start by looking at whitewebbs.
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Ah, the old "Do your own research" approach to debate. Ok Le Tissier....

You made the accusation that Levy/Tavistock has been using our money to buy property - the onus is on you to provide the evidence of it.

Hint: The opinion of some halfwit stood outside the stadium shouting "Levy out" does not count as evidence.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Course I do
But I also think trying to undo a keepers glove is an offence
As is tripping up a player
Or pushing the keeper into the goal by backing into him
Or pushing a man jumping
The ref wouldn’t have a clue imo and as the ball wasn’t in play would be as confused as the
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‘Smashing someone in the face’ is violent conduct and an automatic red card. If the ref doesn’t spot it then VAR will. Surely you actually realise this and don’t really believe your own argument?
 
Bedfordspurs said:
It was/is
But it’s still a foul on him
Arsenal amongst other complained that Kane used to back in on centre backs. It’s the sense here, with the difference being the ball is nowhere near them and Vicario can’t jump
He has to take charge
He did it a lot in the first half of the season and I know you said you wanted even more of that… which I’m fine with
I want my keeper coming for everything. That way as a defender you know where you stand.
It could go like Onana but he has only conceded one penalty from it so far
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I’m actually not convinced it is a foul, it is barely anything. Nothing like the Emirates Marketing Project FA Cup one. If that’s all it takes to remove our keeper from the equation on corners then we are on big trouble.
 
Finney Is Back said:
‘Smashing someone in the face’ is violent conduct and an automatic red card. If the ref doesn’t spot it then VAR will. Surely you actually realise this and don’t really believe your own argument?
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Of course var will
But will they actually do anything
Sling the guy in the net
Step on them
Do anything
Just don’t be passive which is what Vicario is doing
The refs will bottle it
 
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