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*** OMT Spurs vs Everton ***

glasgowspur said:
Dyche, proving at Everton that he's a man that can fight relegation, experience we might need next season.
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I've been wondering how Dyche would do if he was available when Conte was sacked. Do people think he would have gotten the job done in the last 10 games?
 
harr1984 said:
Not seen anyone using it as vindication of Conte? But we heard people constantly saying on here how we were better when Stellini was managing rather than Conte, it was Conte's arm waving that was the problem whereas Stellini is calmer, and with Conte gone the handbrake will be off and away we go - all utter nonsense. When the fans like a manager they make up all the excuses under the sun for him when things dont go well, when its someone they dont like its all his fault.

The fact is there is something wrong at this club that goes far deeper than any manager, the whole culture isn't right and the decision making from the top in order to push on is to be polite, questionable. Sure Jose and Conte aren't the right fit, but they are far from the real problem....
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It's funny that after three years of debate about science, irrationality has taken over in football. Stellini taking the handbrake off, Pochettino working his magic again... of course, it's just a figure of speech but I think they're quite telling. When a problem is too complicated or when, as is the case here, you don't have all the necessary pieces of the jigsaw, you need things to 'go your way' or you need the invisible hand of fate to give you a little help. I don't mind people believing in the world of the unseen (to each, his own), I just hope the board look at it differently otherwise we might just as well appoint Paul the Octopus as our chairman.
 
alekaras said:
I've been wondering how Dyche would do if he was available when Conte was sacked. Do people think he would have gotten the job done in the last 10 games?
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With his rnu hard, kick even harder philosophy Dyche wouldn't last a month here.
 
Just re-watched the game post-our-goal, and this little clip just summarised us in possession:


Trying to play out from the back, but with massive distances between the players and no movement or urgency. So painful to watch, especially against 10 men.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Agreed
He wants fighters and aggression
We’re weak as kittens
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He inherited an even worse group of characters at Everton and he's doing alright there. Dyche would have gotten players like Dier, Romero, Kane, PEH fighting for him. The problem with Dyche, like Moyes for example, is that his methods/style only work up to a level. And that level is mid table in the PL. That still makes him a very, very good manager but he's not capable of managing at the upper end of the Premier League.
 
DeanoAustin said:
He inherited an even worse group of characters at Everton and he's doing alright there. Dyche would have gotten players like Dier, Romero, Kane, PEH fighting for him. The problem with Dyche, like Moyes for example, is that his methods/style only work up to a level. And that level is mid table in the PL. That still makes him a very, very good manager but he's not capable of managing at the upper end of the Premier League.
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Not sure they are worse
Much less primadonnas
 
glorygloryeze said:
Summer 2020 should have taught you of all of us that the owners don't see problems until things are staring at them in the fact. And even them it's 50:50 as to whether they see it.
I think their is little football intelligence at board level and things are coming to a head now.
Imagine how they will go about things when Kane goes...
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I think rather than go down the route of painful rebuild which Poch predicted, and was proven to be right, we went with the so called over ready managers without the playing infrastructure to support it. I don't think they did not see it, I think they ignored it
 
Gutter Boy said:
I'd like to see Bentancur alongside Skipp and Bissouma. Both of those have much higher ceilings than PEH. We've not seen anything of Bissouma's ability yet, but he's a really good player.

Playing 3 CMs again will help them all dramatically too, although we need an ACM or 2 to compliment the 5 CMs we already have.
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I struggle to understand how anyone rates Skipp more highly than PEH. If we're considering Skipp to be one of our first choice players in our team next season then I think we're welcoming 6th/7th place finishes in the Premier League.

Bissouma has been absolute garbage for us in every game he has played.
 
Gutter Boy said:
I'd like to see Bentancur alongside Skipp and Bissouma. Both of those have much higher ceilings than PEH. We've not seen anything of Bissouma's ability yet, but he's a really good player.

Playing 3 CMs again will help them all dramatically too, although we need an ACM or 2 to compliment the 5 CMs we already have.
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Very much agree with that.
 
elltrev said:
Just re-watched the game post-our-goal, and this little clip just summarised us in possession:


Trying to play out from the back, but with massive distances between the players and no movement or urgency. So painful to watch, especially against 10 men.
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And playing Sanchez (who is terrible on his “good” side) on the left was one of the daftest things I have seen in recent Spurs games. And there is hot competition for that prize.
 
Grays_1890 said:
I think rather than go down the route of painful rebuild which Poch predicted, and was proven to be right, we went with the so called over ready managers without the playing infrastructure to support it. I don't think they did not see it, I think they ignored it
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Hmm, i remember you saying that it was only after the opening firs weekend defeat of that season (ironically vs Everton) that the board went and made some further signings such as Bale, Regullion etc.
It always seems they haven't a clue what's needed and often overestimate where things are with our players and then underestimate what it takes to stay competitive. Again, i think that's because they don't really get the football side of things in its broad sense
 
Finney Is Back said:
I struggle to understand how anyone rates Skipp more highly than PEH. If we're considering Skipp to be one of our first choice players in our team next season then I think we're welcoming 6th/7th place finishes in the Premier League.

Bissouma has been absolute garbage for us in every game he has played.
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Bissouma has been overall a big disappointment no doubt; but how much is that due to the coaching he's been under?
He showed previously how good he could be and when he was bought i'm sure most on here were very excited to be getting him into the squad
 
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